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hello I wanted to ask some input on a new sailplane choice ..I wanted to find a arf
as I don't have time to build .My budget was for 250.00 max, just for the arf as I would still need to buy batts, motor, and speed control .

Looking for a good themal ship ,2 meter size or so with full control and maybe flaps. Wide speed range .... light weight ship
Color that you could see high up ... I know its a lot to ask for in that price range ..

thanks rt Would the astra from soaring usa fit the bill ? or Astra 2.15E F5J/ALES (ARF from esprit model ? is a bit bigger or ok
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anyone ? help

anyone... help
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Hi, rct.

The Astra is a beautiful bird but it's rather lightly built. I did the maiden flight on one for a friend and it will go plenty fast but won't tolerate high G forces. If you want to include some "bank and yank" flying the Omega looks a little stronger but I have not seen one in person.

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thanks. I have looked into the omega too .. hummmm
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You probably don't want to hear it if you're a beginner (I didn't when I was new), but you don't need ailerons, and probably never will unless you get into some very serious competition style flying.

With that in mind, you can hardly do better than the lowly original 3 channel Radian, and the RTF version is right there at your price point. People routinely win ALES competitions with Radians, and the airplane is popular enough that saying it has a cult following is not an overstatement. It's not sexy, but it flies damn well.
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hey ,,thanks for the input ..I now fly with rudder only and have had a few gliders thru
the years with ailerons . I liked the extra control when its a bit windy ,or a tight thermal that tries to kick you out !

I'll consider the foam ,! thanks

I try not to bank and yank and fly as smooth as I can . I'm leaning to the astra but
would rather have it in red , Looks like yellow is all that available now .

I would not mind going thru the frame to strengthen any weak areas .Also maybe change bottom of wing black

Anyone who would have some ideas as to where or how to fix weak areas would be appreciated . build threads ?
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Hi again.

It's amazing what one can do to dress up transparent wings. I can see my Specter, which came with transparent yellow wings and white fuse, as far away as any 2 meter glider I've owned and under the right lighting I can see it's orientation almost as far as I can see it. And my eyes don't work as well as they did 20 years ago!

My very first RC glider, successful glider, is a Mark's Windward I built in approximately 1972. has a transparent yellow wing with a wide metallic blue stripe on the left wing and metallic blue fuselage. It still flies on occasion and it's still very easy to see.

On anything but a scale plane I am a big believer in asymmetric color schemes for orientation. And I color scale planes with a "scale-like" scheme that uses the colors I can see best. Different eyes see different colors differently but a good rule of thumb is to mix light and dark transparent wings and/or tail with fluorescent accents. I can see the orange a bit better under most lighting but the yellow stands out as well.

I'll also include a pic of my dearly departed Decathlon. The combination of bright orange, yellow, and metallic blue was excellent for mid range visibility and orientation. At least to my eyes.

Cheers!
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Really great looking glider.Is that a warm liner ? How does it thermal ? rt
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