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Old Feb 18, 2012, 11:10 AM
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What next after my first trainer?

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I built a PT-40 last year and have mastered flying it. I built it with a training wing and installed a .46 engine. I'm looking for something sportier, but I don't want to get something over my head, so I wonder if anyone has advice on what my next plane should be, after graduating from a trainer?

I'm really considering two options: First, I'm considering building a sport wing for my PT-40 to replace my training wing and installing a .60 engine.

The other option is to buy an ARF. My PT-40 wasn't built totally straight and true, so it has a few flying quirks, and I want to see what it's like flying a plane that's been built right.

Any suggestions for my next plane? Thanks!!
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Old Feb 18, 2012, 05:13 PM
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http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...40-arf-HAN4100

Pulse XT-40
Currently on back order. A great flying plane that the gear from your trainer will work in. This is one of the best flying 40 size planes I have flown.
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Old Feb 18, 2012, 08:11 PM
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A good low wing "trainer" sport plane such as the SIG 4star 40/60 or the Great Planes Escapade 40/60. if you would like to build a kit the G P Ultra sport 40 /60 would be a good choice.

HTH

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Old Feb 19, 2012, 10:00 AM
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I have the Sig Four Star 40. Haven't flown it yet, but it was an easy kit to build and looks great. I haven't ever flown either, but have heard good things about the escapade and the H9 pulse. Depending on if you want to do another kit or an ARF, the Tower Hobbies Uproar comes in a kit as well as and ARF. Then there is alwas a cub, decathlon or another scale type high wing plane. Go on youtube and watch a few of these different kinds of planes and see how they fly. Even when you aren't at the controls you can get a better idea if it would be the right plane to buy.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 10:23 AM
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Just a suggestion here, Since you are a builder, Tower Hobbies sells a profile fun fly kit called the Fun 51. Its relativly inexpensive, builds fast and will fly differently than your trainer. You can use all the gear from your trainer, includeing your motor. Its not as radical a fun fly plane as some out there, but it will give you a break from trainer style flying.For the money, i'd take a look at it. I built one & have had motors from .40 to .55 size on it. Its small enough to throw in the car/truck to take to the field for a quick flight or two....If you want to go the ARF rout, a Hanger 9 Twist flies about the same & you could still use all your same gear....Gene
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 10:48 AM
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Just a suggestion here, Since you are a builder, Tower Hobbies sells a profile fun fly kit called the Fun 51. Its relativly inexpensive, builds fast and will fly differently than your trainer. You can use all the gear from your trainer, includeing your motor. Its not as radical a fun fly plane as some out there, but it will give you a break from trainer style flying.For the money, i'd take a look at it. I built one & have had motors from .40 to .55 size on it. Its small enough to throw in the car/truck to take to the field for a quick flight or two....If you want to go the ARF rout, a Hanger 9 Twist flies about the same & you could still use all your same gear....Gene
Sorry, I wouldn't recommend the Fun 51 as a second plane. Everything Gene said is true, but with the short coupled tail moment it can be a handful on the ground and in the air. Not a good transition plane from trainer to low wing tail dragger.
Maybe a good 3rd plane.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 06:24 PM
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Actually the Fun 51 handels quite well & doesnt have the short couple syndrome that some models have. It rotates in less than 10 feet off grass with a .40 & on low rates its still a blast to fly. I'll admitt on high rates it could be a handfull at first, but takeing off & landing on low rates negates that problem. My suggestion was basically an inexpensive alternative ( less than $50 for a kit) to a trainer type model that offers a different flying style to someone that has the ability to build & states he has mastered flying his current trainer. Sounds like the original poster is ready & willing to move foreward with his flying skills......Gene
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Old Feb 21, 2012, 08:19 AM
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Ugly stick type of plane. A good utilitarian plane with a wide flight envelope.
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Old Feb 21, 2012, 10:18 AM
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Ugly stick type of plane. A good utilitarian plane with a wide flight envelope.
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+1 excellent suggestion
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Old Feb 22, 2012, 10:23 AM
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It really depends on what style of flying you plan to do next. I like a twist
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Old Feb 22, 2012, 11:55 AM
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For my second plane I wanted big low-winged tail dragger that I could power with gas. My Pulse 125 is just about finished.

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Old Feb 22, 2012, 12:45 PM
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I would agree with either a Pulse or some kind of Stick plane. A Stick would be fun for you to build, as you have some building experience (they are pretty easy to put together).

You can get either in a 60-size!
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Old Feb 22, 2012, 05:17 PM
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Hi Gang,
Hope I'm not too late to pipe up on this one. My son and I have both the 4 Star 40 and the Pulse XT. His is the Pulse. Anyway, either one will do you just fine. We've had both of ours for a number of years and they are always the first planes that we take out in the spring. They both fly great. If there is a difference I'd have to say the Pulse lands a bit faster than the 4 Star. Of course my son likes that as the faster it goes the better he likes it.

Joel
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Old Feb 22, 2012, 06:20 PM
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4star 40... bascially a low wing trainer.. floaty and easy to fly but still very capable. and strong as well.
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Old Feb 23, 2012, 01:43 AM
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Ugly stick type of plane. A good utilitarian plane with a wide flight envelope.
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This. ...in a taildragger configuration
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