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Old Dec 22, 2012, 11:34 PM
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Sooo, a little while ago, I made two separate free flights with my Passer on the slopes. Each was when I landed with the intention of doing some sort of "ground work", but then rapidly changing my mind to do another quick flight. It's only after fingertips transition from plane to stick, that the sinking-stomach feel is due to a forehead-smacking realization that I forgot to turn the plane back on.

The first was rather funny in front of several others, resulting in an arcing Hammerhead to the left that ended with a perfectly beautiful lawn-darted-vertical fuselage into the rocky soil. A few chips of paint, some hees and haws by others (and myself) and all was well.

The second was on a zen-like solo day- a rare weekday off from work and virtually no people at all in the park, I could well have flown nude if I desired.
The low sun reflecting off the Bay waters was absolutely magical...siiiigghhhh. Yet I landed with the dread of driving home with the "commute crowd". The few steps towards my gear, and into the sun, had me realize it didn't matter if I drove in the crown now, or later, so with a huge grin I chucked it again.
The very first thought was "I forgot to turn my transmitter back on!" a quick flip of that switch was followed by....oohhhhh yeaahhhh, the plane is turned off too.
It took a lazy turn to the right, back into the "rotor-side" (thankfully a lazy-winded day) and by 270 it was headed towards the Bay. I refrained from blindly running towards a constantly moving target and watched it make one...two...and a quarter turns, softly settling into the dry grass. I made a 200' walk along the topography, with hardly an elevation change...NICE!

Where was I?

Oh yeah, so I made up a few switch-jacks for several planes so that I'd have a bright streamer/plug dangling in my face that had to be removed before flight. (Oh yeah, on my smaller planes I turn off the tiny 270mA packs each and every time I land to conserve power) But the jacks themselves seem hokey. They don't seat firmly into the plugs. They are in the way while carrying many planes up the hill at once, or during transport, and can fall out if bumped, turning the plane on.

A slide switch on the canopy was my former method...so how can I combine the "remove before flight" aspect plus super easy recharging feature of a switch jack, with the vastly more "reliable and user-friendly" slide switch?
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Old Dec 22, 2012, 11:37 PM
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Hl Magnetic switchES from Soaring USA are awesome. Maybe not exactly what you were thinking, and a little pricey, but they're awesome!

http://www.soaringusa.com/Magnetic-Switch-Hall.html
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Old Dec 22, 2012, 11:48 PM
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gulp! pricey to be sure...but very interesting.
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Old Dec 22, 2012, 11:53 PM
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Stay with your current switches and train yourself to wiggle the sticks every time before you launch.

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Old Dec 23, 2012, 12:06 AM
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What he said^^. A pre flight check should be a habit. Lucky lesson. I have chucked the Weasel out with it off earlier in my flying career! I suppose most of us have done it.
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 12:07 AM
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A long hike in poison oak and raspberry vines drilled the "stick-wiggle" into my pre-flight.

I've seen a guy launch a Zagi with the switch off about 10 years ago at our hill in Marin, and that plane was airborne for at least five minutes before it went over the back and 500' down the hill. He was gone for a bout 45 minutes, but managed to find it.

I rarely use switches- I usually use a short 3" lead from the receiver, and plug the battery directly into it. I'll usually add a bead of goop from the connector shell to the insulation to prevent me from pulling the insulation back and exposing the wires. I've had setups like this last for 10 years.
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 12:43 AM
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yeah...the stick wiggle thing...i do it, I've always done it, from day one...

...funny tangent to show how my brain works... I had a Honda PC800 motorcycle for many years. I had a steep, off-cambered, pine needle covered driveway in the woods. Quite often I'd drop it on its side trying to maneuver it, resulting in a broken mirror. At $450 each mishap, it'd sometimes be quite some time before it got replaced. Each and every ride I'd look down at the "mirror" and not see any cars (because there was no mirror!) and ride accordingly.
Even in the middle of telling myself there was no mirror, the reflexes would kick in and say "No cars there, my man!" even though the logical side of my brain was saying "There's no mirror there, man!"

The stick wiggle has become a "routine" in and of itself, like a pitcher doing some silly glove smack-hat adjust before letting loose. The stick wiggle has lost its desired effect and has become an entirely separate habit in and of itself, disassociated with the actual control surfaces.

Now I need some sort of visual aid, dangling between my hand launch arm and eye balls.
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 02:19 AM
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Could you add one of those lost model alarms that made a constant sound when power was on? That way it would make it so... "Hear something? Ok, it's on, good to launch!", or "Don't hear something? Hmm, that's strange, lets launch. Oh crapp, I didn't hear anything, it must be off, ".

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Old Dec 23, 2012, 08:24 AM
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Gaaaawdaammmittt... yer a pilot fer crissakes!

Sorry I think I just channelled my grandfather there, a primary flight instructor during WWII and my own primary instructor for many life lessons.

I'm not a fan of switches either. But I'm a huge fan of preflight routines that you do each & every time - with full attention - prior to takeoff.

Good luck! You can use your head or your feet - the choice is yours...

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Old Dec 23, 2012, 11:30 AM
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Wiggling the sticks before I toss is so deeply rooted in my brain that it would take a conscious, deliberate effort on my part to not do it. What I have failed to do on a couple of occasions is verify that the correct model is active in my radio, but that's a rarity and something which I'd like to say is now part of my pre-flight routine.

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Old Dec 23, 2012, 02:33 PM
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 02:41 PM
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 02:47 PM
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 03:42 PM
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Gaaaawdaammmittt... yer a pilot fer crissakes!

Sorry I think I just channelled my grandfather there, a primary flight instructor during WWII and my own primary instructor for many life lessons.

Good luck! You can use your head or your feet - the choice is yours...

Steve
Classic Steve - sage wisdom!

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Old Dec 23, 2012, 03:57 PM
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I've seen several slope planes crap out in the air due to contact, or fail to turn on or off on
the ground, or even short out and threaten to burn up due to faulty switches. I usually just plug
the battery directly into the Rx, or use a short extension (as suggested earlier).
I particularly don't like switch jacks because one little pebble down the hole (we do land in
the dirt a lot after all) and you can no longer turn the plane on or off. A lot of people like to put
the switch jack on top of the canopy which makes it impossible to stack planes in the car.
I've also lost, and seen others lose the plug in the field and then you can't easily turn
the plane off. Switches, we don't need no stinkin switches..

ian
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