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Old Jan 18, 2011, 07:49 PM
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Can we chat about sails? What materials are being used for these after market sails? I new of a fellow here in Orange County that made panel type sails, with sections having different characteristics which permited the sails to take the optimum shapes.

I don't know much about sails, but can tell when they are really working well. The good ones take on forms that look efficient. I attached a couple of photos that show some great looking sails.

Look forward to learning more.
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 08:42 PM
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Any chance you can photograph and post photos of the sails that interest you of the r/c size/scale?

Commonly used sail material might be TriSpi 25-50, nylon ripstop of 3/4 to 1.5 oz (both coated and un-coated), 505 if you can find it, clear cellophane florist wrap, Mylar/Polyester sheet, light Dacron - and probably more that I can't think of at the moment. I know some have experimented with big boat Cuban laminates as well - so if you can grab some close up photos without a lot of backlight I have a hunch someone (or two, or three) will possibly be able to help identify the material.

For my RG65, I found a source of Orcon film which is silver/gray and another that is translucent orange in color. Originally designed and manufactured for aircraft lining in walls of passenger jets - they had to dump a bunch due to changes in FAA flame/smoke-proof standards. I managed to grab a roll via a close big-boat friend who worked for them and just have to cut around the specifications printed on the film. It has a very small network of cross-threads to help resist tearing. I also am aware of some who have made their sails from the film "carrier" used for window tint coverings.

See if you can snag a photo or two.

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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:00 PM
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My Seawind with Oracon sails.

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Did you cut your own sails?
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:11 PM
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Orcon

Yes I did. Still have the originals sails though. Have lots of kite (Stringfly) nylon and polyester. I want to make some more colorful ones out of 1/2 oz polyester. The Orcon I used was from one of my kite material suppliers. Holds up better than 3/4 oz nylon but I think a little stiff but liked the look.

Some shots of my other sailboats..... the last one is a Ema C. Berry old kit that sails but needed 7 lbs of ballast and was not very fast. All bottoms sails are winch controlled.

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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:17 PM
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almost there....

I built a couple of Victor Soling 1Meters when they first came out around 1987. Lots of fun to goof off with.

Make sure scorp gets the trade wind. we dont need him luffing sails in front of us trying to figure out how to tack. His torrets will be in overdrive.

Vela looks like what I will get. Definately will update the sail sets.

Will be great fun in between FE runs. Plus wind/water conditions would always provide options for us every time out.
Hey............i can read you know! I'm not limited to the FE forum.

Yes...........i will be participating in tacking, and beating..................maybe if you're lucky i'll give you a sneak at some jibing!
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:19 PM
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Yes I did. Still have the originals sails though. Have lots of kite (Stringfly) nylon and polyester. I want to make some more colorful ones out of 1/2 oz polyester. The Orcon I used was from one of my kite material suppliers. Holds up better than 3/4 oz nylon but I think a little stiff but liked the look.

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We may have to make a pattern once my boat gets here.

The kit sails are :

Sails: Constructed of fiber reinforced thermal plastic polyester
(polyethelene terephthalate) wih extra reinforcement along the
edges for protection against wind gusts and during transport, sails
are printed on one side to help with orientation at a distance
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:26 PM
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Uh Oh.... the pirate found us .... AKA.... Jack sparrow, Johnny Depp, Scorpion.

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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:33 PM
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yes.. he's blowing up my pm account.

wants to put a leopard 2200 kv 4074 in your hobie already.
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:35 PM
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You can run, but you cant hide
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:37 PM
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I will let scorpion1 run the Black Hawk 32... it's FAST !!!!! really !!

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The cat could use it, It likes lots of wind and is tricky to sail.
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:38 PM
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I will let scorpion1 run the Black Hawk 32... it's FAST !!!!! really !!

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Whats the kv of the Black Hawk?
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:43 PM
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kv unknown... but has kept up with the Seawind at times.
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 09:43 PM
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Hi Dick
The boat is my 1M Yamaha RTW. It is a 1/20th scale of the real W60 Class '94 winner of the then Whitbread RTW race, of which I know you are familar.

Rather than take away from this growing thread, I can shoot you an e-mail if you send me your e-mail address in a PM. I have pictures of it on my blog, and can provide measurements.

I am building another one and will be using all the knowledge I have gained on my first one, to make this one even nicer. I was very lucky to have found a brand new kit still in it's sealed box.

I would really like to be able to put some colorful sails on it to add to it's already amazing appearence. I see rc sailboats on Modelmayhem's forum that have beautiful sails and the guys at StocktonMaritime.com make really amazing sails for their rc boats.

I am sure they are expensive, but what a difference!
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Old Jan 19, 2011, 11:15 AM
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Beautiful sails !!!!

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Old Jan 19, 2011, 11:40 AM
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Jim
How is the deck sealed. The cover looks pretty nice but wondering if you think it is going to be water tight? I see in the product photos there is a rasied lip on the deck, is the any kind of gasket on the hatch cover?

Were I to get one, I think I'd replace the deck shroud plates with higher grade fittings, like off a Seawind, and replace the string sheets/lines with Nylon coated SS leader and SS turnbuckles. (I do that on all of my boats) kind of habit I've gotten into. Looks great and makes tuning the sails a snap.
Thanks
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