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Old Dec 06, 2014, 02:46 PM
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"5EZPx2" NORTH AMERICAN F-86 SABRE

A decommissioned F-86 Sabre was displayed on the corner of the Vigo County Courthouse grounds at the intersection of Ohio Street and US-41 back when I was a kid. A Local American Legion Post took custody of it ten years ago and now it sits on their lot. When I was a kid and I thought of Jets I always thought of the Sabre jet at the County Courthouse.
So here I go again. I've already cut out a working pattern and begun the parts registration.
The "Five Easy Piece" North American Aircraft F-86 Sabre.
It will be constructed much like my recent Aero L-39 Albatros and Douglass A4E Skyhawk with a "C" shaped fuse and be driven by a Grayson Hobby Super-Mega-Jet Motor on a 2200+mah 3S power set-up.
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Old Dec 07, 2014, 06:30 PM
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The rending of foam begins.
She is 49" long with a 50" wingspan.
Initial glide tests are very good.
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Old Dec 09, 2014, 12:37 AM
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The rending of foam begins.
She is 49" long with a 50" wingspan.
Initial glide tests are very good.
Geesh, Bob! You are on fire! I can't keep up. ;-)
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Old Dec 09, 2014, 09:41 AM
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Bob, Am adding this link as a bit of information I recalled from my childhood days, when my country was at war and the Sabres were supreme...

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Hi...ar/Bharat.html

India was flying the Folland Gnat. An interesting piece of histroy....
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Old Dec 09, 2014, 05:48 PM
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Bob, Am adding this link as a bit of information I recalled from my childhood days, when my country was at war and the Sabres were supreme...

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Hi...ar/Bharat.html

India was flying the Folland Gnat. An interesting piece of histroy....
Thanks Ponappa.
The Gnat also looks like an interesting subject to models a park jet.
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Old Dec 09, 2014, 05:51 PM
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Got some work done on the Sabre. More molding of the forward fuse as well as the configuring the internal fuse.
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Old Dec 09, 2014, 08:36 PM
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Bob, Am adding this link as a bit of information I recalled from my childhood days, when my country was at war and the Sabres were supreme...

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Hi...ar/Bharat.html

India was flying the Folland Gnat. An interesting piece of histroy....
I found this history of the Gnat:

The Folland Gnat was a small, swept-wing British subsonic jet trainer and light fighter aircraft developed for the Royal Air Force, and flown extensively by the Indian Air Force. It was designed by W.E.W. Petter, and first flew in 1955. Its design was such that it could be built without specialised tools by countries that were not highly industrialised.[1][2] Although never used as a fighter by the Royal Air Force (RAF), the "Gnat T.1" trainer variant was widely used. The Gnat became well known as the mount for the RAF Red Arrows aerobatic team.

The Gnat also achieved export success, particularly with India, the largest foreign operator who manufactured the aircraft under license. India then developed the HAL Ajeet, a modified and improved variant.

Design and development

The Gnat was the creation of W.E.W. "Teddy" Petter, a British aircraft designer formerly of Westland Aircraft and English Electric. Designed to meet the 1952 Operational Requirement OR.303 calling for a lightweight fighter, Petter believed that a small, simple fighter would offer the advantages of low purchase and operational costs. New lightweight turbojet engines that were being developed enabled the concept to take shape.[1] Petter 's first design resulted in the private venture Folland Midge which had a short lifespan, but served as a proof-of-concept design.
A privately owned Folland Gnat.
The Midge first flew on 11 August 1954 but was destroyed in a crash on 20 September 1955. The Gnat, being developed in parallel with the Midge, was an improved version of the original fighter design, differentiated by larger air intakes and provision for a 30 mm Aden cannon in each intake lip.
One of the hallmarks of the Gnat's design was its compact size. However, to achieve such a size, its systems were closely packed, making maintenance more difficult. Some of its systems were not noted for their reliability and the aircraft suffered from high operating costs. There were also concerns that its cockpit was cramped and obstructed the instructor's forward visibility.[4] Furthermore, the limited weapons load and reduced fuel capacity both designed to reduce overall kerb weight meant that it could not operate for protracted periods . Despite the shortcomings, the Gnat and its predecessor the Folland Midge were praised by the RAF evaluation and the test pilots in the 1955 Gnat Flight Development Team that included a pilot from India. The lower cost of the Gnat, its compact dimensions, as well as "good press" for the aircraft in air shows, were among the factors that prompted a spurt in its export sales.
SFR Yugoslav Air Force received only two aircraft, construction numbers FL14 and FL17, machines originally marked as G-39-8 and G-39-9 respectively, and became Yugoslav AF inventory registration numbers 11601 and 11602. They were used for evaluation and tests by VOC (Flight test center).
Gonna have to do one of these.
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Old Dec 09, 2014, 11:50 PM
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Geesh, Bob! You are on fire! I can't keep up. ;-)
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I'm having to slow down. Work is picking up and I'm helping move my youngest son and his family to Indianapolis. It will be another week before I will be able to gizmo her up and fly.
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Old Dec 10, 2014, 06:23 PM
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SABRE GLIDES (3 min 17 sec)
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Old Dec 10, 2014, 07:26 PM
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That is a real floater!
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Old Dec 10, 2014, 11:42 PM
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More work done tonite. Took her all apart and began gluing her back together after her glide tests.
Added 3mm CR down her leading edges to stiffen her 50" wings in addition to the 5mm CR spar. Also added a 2mm CR cross brace at the forward rudder tab to arrest the tendency for the rear fuse to twist in a tight turn (may want to do this on the L-39 and the Skyhawk too). Now she's stiff and ready for Gizmos.

Also today I received confirmation from the former Base Commander's son that the 181st squadron at Hulman Filed in Terre Haute did have and fly the F-86 Sabre in the 60's.
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Old Dec 10, 2014, 11:43 PM
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That is a real floater!
It's those 50" wings.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 05:59 AM
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watching with interest.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 07:59 AM
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watching with interest.
These 50 to 60's era jets were the pioneers of jet aviation.
Fond of this one because it flew with the 181st fighter Squadron through the skies above my house when I was a boy.
I had plastic models of all these early fighters back then.
It may be next week before I can maiden her as I'll be Spending the weekend at my daughters in Aurora spoiling my grandson.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 08:52 AM
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Watched the glides, wonderful.
Have fun on your visit Bob and do hope your Grandson gets your interest in aviation !!!
Cheers for the Holidays !!!
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