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Old Jul 29, 2014, 05:15 PM
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Running out of water

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0729093112.htm

This is an argument that we will not be able to use water as we presently do very far into the future. I have thought for sometime that water was going to be the first major limiting factor on human affairs.

Here in the Austin area, water conservation has been so successful that an additional surcharge of $2.85 has been added to my water bill. This is necessary so that the water company can continue to function and not go broke, so they say.
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 05:19 PM
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0729093112.htm

This is an argument that we will not be able to use water as we presently do very far into the future. I have thought for sometime that water was going to be the first major limiting factor on human affairs.

Here in the Austin area, water conservation has been so successful that an additional surcharge of $2.85 has been added to my water bill. This is necessary so that the water company can continue to function and not go broke, so they say.
Somewhere recently I read that hydrologists believe that there is more water beneath our feet ,than in all the oceans combined .Its just a matter of tapping into it .As far as that goes ,my well water tastes great unfiltered ,cool and refreshing on a hot summers day too..
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 07:13 PM
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 07:23 PM
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The water is actually being launched into space and we didn't even know about it.
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 07:47 PM
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We are in a "severe' drought in the SF bay area. You are only allowed to water your lawn on alternating days( and soon it may be no watering) according to address and at certain hours. Our water rates are going up 40-70 % in october, to cover possible cost of buying water from another utility.
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 08:11 PM
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We are in a "severe' drought in the SF bay area. You are only allowed to water your lawn on alternating days( and soon it may be no watering) according to address and at certain hours. Our water rates are going up 40-70 % in october, to cover possible cost of buying water from another utility.
Now that just plain sucks. I wonder how towns like Palm Springs are going to manage.
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 08:26 PM
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I understand there are major aquifers under deep oceans. I can picture BP drilling for water rather than oil. There is considerable water deep in the mantle , which I don't think we are anywhere close to the technology to extract. There are saline aquifers in Texas. There has been some serious thought of building desalination plants here and there to utilize this water.

I haven't done any numbers on it, but I wonder if passive solar desalination would be useful on a small scale some places. I think I read a science fiction story where icebergs were being towed to San Francisco as a source of fresh water.

A fair number of people around me have wells. There have been real problems with wells going dry.
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 08:30 PM
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I understand there are major aquifers under deep oceans. I can picture BP drilling for water rather than oil. There is considerable water deep in the mantle , which I don't think we are anywhere close to the technology to extract. There are saline aquifers in Texas. There has been some serious thought of building desalination plants here and there to utilize this water.

I haven't done any numbers on it, but I wonder if passive solar desalination would be useful on a small scale some places. I think I read a science fiction story where icebergs were being towed to San Francisco as a source of fresh water.

A fair number of people around me have wells. Thee have been real problems with wells going dry.
Wait till they start fracking in the area. Might get interesting.
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 08:32 PM
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Oh how cool, something more for Jumpy and Goat to deny!
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 08:54 PM
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I understand there are major aquifers under deep oceans. I can picture BP drilling for water rather than oil. There is considerable water deep in the mantle , which I don't think we are anywhere close to the technology to extract. There are saline aquifers in Texas. There has been some serious thought of building desalination plants here and there to utilize this water.

I haven't done any numbers on it, but I wonder if passive solar desalination would be useful on a small scale some places. I think I read a science fiction story where icebergs were being towed to San Francisco as a source of fresh water.

A fair number of people around me have wells. Thee have been real problems with wells going dry.
Texas has approximately 2.7 billion acre-feet of brackish water. El Paso TX is currently using brackish water

http://www.epwu.org/water/desal_info.html
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 08:58 PM
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Deny what, exactly? Of course water is going to be a problem in some areas, particularly due to reluctance to apply actual market pricing.
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 09:04 PM
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Deny what, exactly? Of course water is going to be a problem in some areas, particularly due to reluctance to apply actual market pricing.
That and too many people living in arid areas
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 09:06 PM
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Yup, all part of the subsidy problem.
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 09:49 PM
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Well the shortage is due to much less rain and snow this year( third year of ).
Is this due to climate change ? duno ,I know we had a similar drought in the 70's here.
2010-2011 we had higher than normal rain snow.
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Old Jul 29, 2014, 10:01 PM
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I have a well on my place which hit brackish water. It is sealed over, but the guy who dug it showed me where it is. Neighbors on either side have OK wells with water softeners and RO units. My water comes through a pipe, with meter, from the road. I was raised with wells and windmills and did not want to deal with a water well in my golden years. I still have a well with windmill at the home place, and spend money on it from time to time.
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