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Old Mar 20, 2013, 12:57 AM
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Carbon-Z Scimitar EDF Conversion

Carbon-Z Scimitar is a wonderful airframe minus the terrible tork roll at landing speeds and the constant prop breaking. The reason I decided to do the conversion was because I'm building a Falcon 120 EDF and have this ducted fan pusher sindrum I'm trying to fix, and so there it was. The conversion was fast and simple because I had everthing basically laying around the shop to do it. I made the EDF mount out of carbon fiber utilizing the factory motor mount holes. I installed the factory lip to the fan and removed some foam and plastic for better airflow. The model itself needed very little to no trimming in its maiden flight and sprung from the runway like never before. Carbon-Z Scimitar now handled rock solid at low speeds and was noticeably faster all around, with no prop breaking,o Success. With some tuning of the efflux and proper thrust this airframe could see close to 100 with stock eflite 80mm fan unit. Setup( 80mm eflite fan unit, 80amp eflite esc, 3000 6s skylipo 30c) 4 min flight with throttle management or 3 min all-out. Planning on upgraded fan unit to a 90mm running 100 amps, I'm also going to try squeezing a 5000 or at least a 4000 size 6s in the fuselage. PS plan on reposting after the upgrade. Thanks for checking out my project, Travis
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Old Mar 20, 2013, 03:13 AM
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Congrats on your conversion. That`s what they should have built in the first place, with the proper shaping and molding to feed the fan. It sounds like you don`t need any more thrust, based on the takeoff.

If you are looking for more speed, I`d suggest you stay with the 80mm fan, but go with a more aggressive rotor, like the new one piece 12 blade 90mm rotor. Then cut it down to fit the 80mm shroud. This will bring your power up and your efflux speed will be faster, but thrust won`t increase much. That`s what you want.

If you go with the 90mm, you will have more thrust and lower efflux for the same amount of power that you push thru the 80mm. So you may be able to hover it, but it won`t be any faster.

So I`m logged in. get us some video if you can. Good luck, Lee

PS...also drag reduction will go a long way too. Now that you don`t have the prop to worry about, you might think about cleaning up all of those draggy fins on the bottom of the wing. It will still fly great and will be much cleaner.
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Old Mar 20, 2013, 10:38 PM
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Thanks for the response, After I completed the conversion I found myself wanted to really fly this thing every time I loaded up to go fly. Before the conversion I was ok leaving it home. I plan on adding a phase 2 performance upgrade build thread. This will include either a cut down 80mm midipro or a 90mm 12 blade medal alloy and a 100amp castle or a 130amp scorpion. I actually have the maiden flight on film and will post soon as I get a chance. Definitely was noticing the prop saver on the bottom and was thinking it needed to go also. As far as the powerplant goes, hovering sounds fun. This bird has the control throws to do it just needs some more power and some vectoring would help. We will see what happens!!!!
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Old Mar 21, 2013, 08:29 AM
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Very cool, looking forward to more information, could you post some more detailed pictures. I have one and would like to do the same also, how long is that thrust tube, it's made out of mylar right?
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Old Mar 23, 2013, 01:05 AM
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Carbon-Z Scimitar EDF Conversion maiden flight

This was the maiden flight, was only flown on lower rates in the video. Plan on making a better video showing more of what this plane can do.
Eflite Carbon Z Scimitar EDF Conversion (3 min 34 sec)
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Old Mar 23, 2013, 02:34 AM
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The video link doesn`t work. Maybe you have it marked private.
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Old Mar 23, 2013, 09:33 AM
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Link fixed!!!!! Better pics coming soon
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Old Mar 23, 2013, 09:47 AM
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Looks like it flies great. Clean up that bottom and add some etracts and you`ll have a very slick edf. You should be able to run a shorter efflux tube too. 6" is plenty, I don`t care what the girls say.
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Old Mar 23, 2013, 06:46 PM
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Very cool, could you take a few more detailed pictures of how you mounted the fan, and whatever else you think might help. I have one and would like to do the same thing, great job!!
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Old Mar 24, 2013, 10:54 AM
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