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Old Feb 10, 2013, 03:31 PM
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thank you The_RattleSnake and BennyT for your time to help me

- I understand that a bigger wing would fit more what I want to do ( slower and fpv)
but i don't have a car, just a bike. I don't imagine myself with the big wing on my bike
I may fly with the bike lollllll ( wow would be a real fpv )
My first idea of wing was actually Hobbyking Teksumo EPP Wing 900mm
but , even if it's silly, i am not fan of the visual /colors
I saw that wing on the site flitetest , showing the equipment for fpv + wing

it's true on the video it looks so fast ..... maybe i should buy a backup lol coz i have never tried yet any aircraft ....

- so one of the good setup
lipo : 3S 2200mah
motor : 1800kv
prop 6x4
servos : 9g
esc : i don't know the A of the motor yet

- About the eagle tree, modules.. yes, it will be when i will do fpv ( requiring more money)

I will get the RC Turnigy 9X , i guess it s ok. I understand it needs to set what they call elevon mixing.
I will find a good simulator (for wings ?)

@Gimmer, so funny lol when we see the guy showing he got the wing, Mission accomplished

EDIT : oh that's your video lol and maybe it was u ! thanks for sharing
may I ask what was your setup? (i know boring question lol )
I got the kit and put in this:
2208 1800kv rctimer motor
25A Esc
1600mah 3s battery
6x5.5 prop

808 #16 v2 Keychain camera
200mw Vid transmitter from hobby king.
180mah 3s battery.

Kept it real simple, all gear fits in the bay. With that setup it pulls 15A max throttle on the bench and I get 13-15min flight times. I have only had one day with it in the field so far but am really impressed.

I have also been FPVing a Teksumo 900mm for a year or so, think I prefer z-84
because all the gear is in the fuselage. I have stuff velcroed all over the Teksumo. Both great fun planes though.

Cheers,
Gim
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 03:49 PM
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I got the kit and put in this:
2208 1800kv rctimer motor
25A Esc
1600mah 3s battery
6x5.5 prop

808 #16 v2 Keychain camera
200mw Vid transmitter from hobby king.
180mah 3s battery.

Kept it real simple, all gear fits in the bay. With that setup it pulls 15A max throttle on the bench and I get 13-15min flight times. I have only had one day with it in the field so far but am really impressed.

I have also been FPVing a Teksumo 900mm for a year or so, think I prefer z-84
because all the gear is in the fuselage. I have stuff velcroed all over the Teksumo. Both great fun planes though.

Cheers,
Gim
that will be helpful , thanks.
do u use the original antenna of video or u had to change to fly far ?
maybe i would add an OSD if the weight is ok ...
I dont know yet what exactly i will get for the fpv
in france, only two frequencies : 2.4Ghz and 5.8Ghz
my rc is 2.4 so no choice 5.8Ghz...
Knowing that 25mW max allowed by the law ....
i guess there , all videos tx are illegal lol (if i am not wrong about 25)
the camera would be HD Wing Camera 1280x720p 30fps 5MP
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 06:17 PM
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well, that's my order for a Z-84 placed with the UK warehouse.

I have the following electronics left over from my Funjet Ultra (which is now upgraded to bigger ESC and faster motor):

Turnigy NTM Prop drive 2826 2200kv motor
Turnigy Plush 40A ESC
6x4e TGS Sport prop
1000mah 4S nanotech

will be using hextronic 9g "blue" servos

Cant wait to get it flying
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Old Feb 11, 2013, 02:46 AM
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that will be helpful , thanks.
do u use the original antenna of video or u had to change to fly far ?
maybe i would add an OSD if the weight is ok ...
I dont know yet what exactly i will get for the fpv
in france, only two frequencies : 2.4Ghz and 5.8Ghz
my rc is 2.4 so no choice 5.8Ghz...
Knowing that 25mW max allowed by the law ....
i guess there , all videos tx are illegal lol (if i am not wrong about 25)
the camera would be HD Wing Camera 1280x720p 30fps 5MP
I am using 5.8 and have replaced the stock antennas with Clover Leaf and Skew Planar Wheel. No idea of the legalities where you are, but if they if they police like the meat trade you should be OK

Have a friend running an OSD in his, still flies nicely.
Cheers,
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Old Feb 11, 2013, 04:01 AM
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Vid of first day FPVing the HK Z-84 Wing Wing.

First day of Z-84 Wing Wing FPV. (2 min 28 sec)
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Old Feb 11, 2013, 07:49 AM
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if they police like the meat trade you should be OK
LOL ehem !
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 01:54 AM
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Please dont give out misleading information, you can get fpv gear on a wing wing. It has already been done.

The z-84 is Not a beginner plane in its upgraded form, its much to fast and agile.
My apologies and I stand corrected but I would like to see some pics of the gear the guys have put in the canopy because imho there isn't a lot of room.....so it can be done. Plus the AUW? What sort of figures are you guys getting...?

I would have thought that if you were going to think of FPV the bigger wing would be better...carry more payload and not have to worry about layout so much.

Thanks for setting me straight regardless - I will cop that one on the chin!

Ben
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 02:02 AM
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Indeed you can. Then you can crash it into a tree
That is hillarious! Good of you to keep doing flybys until your mate can find it!
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 12:51 PM
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Throwing my maiden* (I flew it right before this to get it trimmed out) into the mix. Sorry about the sound, I can't seem to find the back plate for my gopro that opens the mic up.

Up elevator doesnt seem to have much authority...Guessing I need to adjust my throws a little bit....also felt a tiny bit nose heavy..

Other than that, it's my first elevon/wing and Im LOVING it.

WingWing Z84 Maiden - Crown Beach Alameda, CA (8 min 16 sec)
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 07:17 PM
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My apologies and I stand corrected but I would like to see some pics of the gear the guys have put in the canopy because imho there isn't a lot of room.....so it can be done. Plus the AUW? What sort of figures are you guys getting...?

I would have thought that if you were going to think of FPV the bigger wing would be better...carry more payload and not have to worry about layout so much.

Thanks for setting me straight regardless - I will cop that one on the chin!

Ben
Pic attached. Broken motor mount result of hitting the ground with throttle on, gives you an idea of layout though. Think AUW is 440-450g.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 05:43 AM
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made a start on my wing wing last night, goes together pretty well. just need to glue the fins on and the servos in.

i'm actually using the 2200kv 2826-6 turnigy motor with a 3S setup now.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 05:54 AM
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Gonna order me one of these and stick on a TGY 2826 2200 kv with 40A esc.HXT900 servo's 1500maH 3s lipo.,this will make an awesome combat wing for the slope so Will be strengthening quite abit
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 06:41 AM
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the NTM motor (2836) was a bit heavy, needing a helluva lot more nose weight... which isn't really possible without cutting away the foam.

I havent made my mind up as to what LiPo to use, other than it will be a 3S. I need to fit the ESC and receiver tonight, so I can guage how much room I have left for battery and how heavy it will need to be.

I have 3 FPV platforms, a Bixler 2, Funjet Ultra and a H-quad, so I'm not interested in FPVing the Z-84.

I just want to have a relatively small park flyable aircraft for when I can't be bothered taking all my FPV gear out with me.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 04:21 PM
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So after about 15 or so really great flights on my wing wing, it has started this bad habit of going into a death spiral stall...The wings and vertical stabs dont appear to be loose and the wings and fuse don't appear to be deformed. The servos and motor all appear to be working properly and secure.

What should I look at?
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 07:49 PM
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Limit the elevator travel on your transmitter and then it'll be fine.
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