Are flight stablization units usefull for VTOL?

malakiblunt · Dec 23, 2012, 10:34 AM

Hi im wondering if units such as the eagle tree inertial 2d 3d stabilzer
would be usefull for my XC-142 tilt wing at the moment im just useing rate gyros on roll and pitch, one of the problems with tilt wings is they changeing of controls as the wing tilts so yaw becomes roll so the roll gyro needs to be switched off at 45˚ tilt .

I geuss my question is has anyone tred one on a vtol project?

Brandano · Dec 23, 2012, 05:49 PM

You can just fix the gyro to the wing, though

malakiblunt · Dec 23, 2012, 05:52 PM

lol yes very good point
cheers :-)

v22chap · Dec 24, 2012, 01:05 PM

Most of the dedicated helicopter tail rotor gyros will not help a VTOL much as they recenter to fast and don't do enough control input to help .
That said I know nothing of how this eagle tree 3 axis works so can't help you there

I had found a couple old early piezo gyros by arcamax that did work good and as Brandano stated I did mount my roll one to the tilt mechanics and as it rotated over roll gyro became yaw gyro and it worked quite well .

Several guys on the VTOL board are using the multi Wii boards and have good luck ... and the thing there is you can program them to do different things with the open code ... and guys on here will help you do that .

Got any work done on your XV -142 ... always wanted to do one but never had the time ... would love to see some pictures

Good luck

malakiblunt · Dec 24, 2012, 01:46 PM

Thanks V22
I have a very old GWS basic pizzo gyro i was going to use, plan is to have it contolling just one of the 4 wing motors for roll .
geuss ill just have to try and see if it works!

yeah ive been very impressed with what the guys have been doing here with the Wii boards
and am already plaing my next project to use one (depending on getting help here)

But i must completel this project first!! (i can always retro fit a wii once the model is 'flying' if it needs it :-)

thanks again for your help.

v22chap · Dec 25, 2012, 10:57 AM

Do a search on here for Iphan and his CL 84 tilt wing I believe that he used gyros ... can't remember
there was another thread on a XC -142 but that was on runryder and it has been down for the last week or so , He never got his to fly well at all as I remember .Ended up crashing pretty bad

Dec 23, 2012, 10:34 AM	#1
malakiblunt if you see a weed, pick it Devon England Joined Oct 2006 347 Posts	Are flight stablization units usefull for VTOL? Hi im wondering if units such as the eagle tree inertial 2d 3d stabilzer would be usefull for my XC-142 tilt wing at the moment im just useing rate gyros on roll and pitch, one of the problems with tilt wings is they changeing of controls as the wing tilts so yaw becomes roll so the roll gyro needs to be switched off at 45˚ tilt . I geuss my question is has anyone tred one on a vtol project?

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Dec 23, 2012, 05:49 PM	#2
Brandano Registered User Joined Oct 2004 2,357 Posts	You can just fix the gyro to the wing, though

Dec 23, 2012, 05:52 PM	#3
malakiblunt if you see a weed, pick it Devon England Joined Oct 2006 347 Posts	lol yes very good point cheers :-)

Dec 24, 2012, 01:05 PM	#4
v22chap Registered User Goshen, Indiana, United States Joined Jan 2003 2,913 Posts	Most of the dedicated helicopter tail rotor gyros will not help a VTOL much as they recenter to fast and don't do enough control input to help . That said I know nothing of how this eagle tree 3 axis works so can't help you there I had found a couple old early piezo gyros by arcamax that did work good and as Brandano stated I did mount my roll one to the tilt mechanics and as it rotated over roll gyro became yaw gyro and it worked quite well . Several guys on the VTOL board are using the multi Wii boards and have good luck ... and the thing there is you can program them to do different things with the open code ... and guys on here will help you do that . Got any work done on your XV -142 ... always wanted to do one but never had the time ... would love to see some pictures Good luck

Dec 24, 2012, 01:46 PM	#5
malakiblunt if you see a weed, pick it Devon England Joined Oct 2006 347 Posts	Thanks V22 I have a very old GWS basic pizzo gyro i was going to use, plan is to have it contolling just one of the 4 wing motors for roll . geuss ill just have to try and see if it works! yeah ive been very impressed with what the guys have been doing here with the Wii boards and am already plaing my next project to use one (depending on getting help here) But i must completel this project first!! (i can always retro fit a wii once the model is 'flying' if it needs it :-) thanks again for your help.

Dec 25, 2012, 10:57 AM	#6
v22chap Registered User Goshen, Indiana, United States Joined Jan 2003 2,913 Posts	Do a search on here for Iphan and his CL 84 tilt wing I believe that he used gyros ... can't remember there was another thread on a XC -142 but that was on runryder and it has been down for the last week or so , He never got his to fly well at all as I remember .Ended up crashing pretty bad