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Old Jul 31, 2012, 04:19 PM
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Hmm...i've got only one concern....anyone know how well the MCPX tail motors hold up? I dont want to be replacing them for $14 every single month....
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 06:18 PM
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Hmm...i've got only one concern....anyone know how well the MCPX tail motors hold up? I dont want to be replacing them for $14 every single month....
All of the planes in this photo were flown on the same motor (moved from one model to the next). I have been flying several generations of these designs for weeks on that same motor. I tested a nano sized X32 on that same motor. Thus far I have had zero issues with this motor BUT i do not think 100% power 100% of the time is a good idea. These planes fly well at 50% power with flight times close to 10min. You can find 6mm clones of this motor on Ebay right now for $4.99.

Spot the DF-727 that did not make the cut as a kit? I am still working out the bugs on the 727 but doubt it will be offered anytime soon.

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Old Jul 31, 2012, 07:11 PM
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You guys realize that all 6mm motors aren't the same right? Stick with what is recommended since the ohm are unknown.
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 08:26 PM
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You guys realize that all 6mm motors aren't the same right? Stick with what is recommended since the ohm are unknown.
Thanks for the post. I have read that the clones do not produce as much thrust, but for $5 I thought it was worth a look.
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 08:45 PM
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oh okay thanks. Should be good then. 727 didn't work? Dang, that would of been awesome if it did!
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 08:58 PM
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Thanks for the post. I have read that the clones do not produce as much thrust, but for $5 I thought it was worth a look.
They definitely are not clones. They are just made for a different purpose. Remember, these motors originally came from pagers, cell phones, and other related devices, hence why we call them pager motors.
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Old Jul 31, 2012, 10:39 PM
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Okay...so i really want to get this plane this weekend, but all i have is $36. Now the plane itself is $25 shipped to PA.....so i can only spend a max of $11 shipped for the motor. Anyone know of a place i can get the mcpx motor for that cheap?
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 06:00 AM
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They definitely are not clones. They are just made for a different purpose. Remember, these motors originally came from pagers, cell phones, and other related devices, hence why we call them pager motors.
Yes, got it! I now consider myself slightly more educated on the matter. But not speaking in broad generalities here, what is your first hand experience with these “pager motors”? Are there any particular sellers or brands that you could recommend for RC use (or brands to stay away from)? Even if they are slightly “under powered” I would still be interested (not for this application but something else in development). I have been looking at the HK MCPx type heli’s and their replacement tail motors but have seen mixed reviews.

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Old Aug 01, 2012, 06:35 AM
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OK, $60 is a bit much for a PArkzone brick. Anybody thought about using the board from the WLtoys V911 heli? Just ignore the rudder channel. You get an ESC and two real servos with arms. Will it fit? Plus it's $13. This will bind with the Turnigy 9x radio.

http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Wl...s-p-38688.html
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 07:00 AM
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OK, $60 is a bit much for a PArkzone brick. Anybody thought about using the board from the WLtoys V911 heli? Just ignore the rudder channel. You get an ESC and two real servos with arms. Will it fit? Plus it's $13. This will bind with the Turnigy 9x radio.

http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Wl...s-p-38688.html
Good question? It does look heavy, could not find specs on weight? Maybe I should not comment about the PZ brick vs. other bricks as I have not tried the latter of the two. BUT, I have been using my same PZ bricks for years now without any problems. They have excellent range and resolution is very good.
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 07:02 AM
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Neat!
Would make a fun winter indoor flyer!
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 04:26 PM
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Yes, got it! I now consider myself slightly more educated on the matter. But not speaking in broad generalities here, what is your first hand experience with these “pager motors”? Are there any particular sellers or brands that you could recommend for RC use (or brands to stay away from)? Even if they are slightly “under powered” I would still be interested (not for this application but something else in development). I have been looking at the HK MCPx type heli’s and their replacement tail motors but have seen mixed reviews.

Bert
I use the larger 7mm and 8.4mm in micro boats and hovercraft. I do not deal with 6mm motors, but they all follow the same principle of ohm (you understand what I mean).
- the lower the ohms, the hotter the motor - How hot the motor is is just a way to relate it to its rpm... something like the kv rating of a brushless motor.
- the trade off is that amp draw goes up a little

You can use this as a general guide.

I just remembered...
The 6mm found in the J3 is reported to be the hottest (lowest ohm) motor used by all the parkzone micros. It may even be the same as what's on the mCPX tail. If anything is worth trying as a viable replacement, it is the J3 motor. Any place that sells Horizon products should have it.
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 04:39 PM
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The J3 motor is a powerful 6mm coreless; more so than stock vapor motor

I have some around

Hmmm
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 07:35 PM
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Well I have been meaning to order a 911 brick to fly in a micro model in zero wind. It won't have the AS3X system, but that cost money! Couldn't hurt to try, but the servos look a bit heavy. I will order a brick once I place my order for the new WL toys 939 quad that is due out soon. I assume the brushed ESC and 2 servos is adequate, but I don't want to use the MCPX tail motor and need something cheaper! Maybe the solo pro tail motor. I am about to have a used one available to me. What is used for the prop? Is the foamy kit just the pieces of foam? Is there any hardware? And can I get a UPS plane? I work for UPS.
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Old Aug 01, 2012, 08:32 PM
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I use the larger 7mm and 8.4mm in micro boats and hovercraft. I do not deal with 6mm motors, but they all follow the same principle of ohm (you understand what I mean).
- the lower the ohms, the hotter the motor - How hot the motor is is just a way to relate it to its rpm... something like the kv rating of a brushless motor.
- the trade off is that amp draw goes up a little

You can use this as a general guide.

I just remembered...
The 6mm found in the J3 is reported to be the hottest (lowest ohm) motor used by all the parkzone micros. It may even be the same as what's on the mCPX tail. If anything is worth trying as a viable replacement, it is the J3 motor. Any place that sells Horizon products should have it.
Thanks for the info!!!!!!!! I will try the J3 for sure.
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