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Old May 09, 2015, 08:22 AM
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The Lusitania Sinking: Why Should Captains Go Down With Their Ships?

I know its several days late but wanted to share this interesting article that appeared in this week's The Atlantic on the centennial of the sinking of RMS Lusitania, May 7, 1915.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...turner/392579/
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Old May 10, 2015, 05:18 PM
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Why Should Captains Go Down With Their Ships?

Because it's much less embarrassing than standing at the bar answering questions like;

"What the he__ happened out there?"

or

"How did you ever let that happen?"

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I just finished Erik Larson's book, "Dead Wake" about the last voyage of the Lusitania. A good, very detailed account of events leading up to and after the sinking. The way Mr. Larson tells it, Captain Turner had little to do with the ship being torpedoed and sunk. Cunard delayed her sailing from New York 2 hours. The Admiralty knew U20 was in the vicinity and had sunk other ships in the last day, no escorts provided, etc. Larson makes it sound like Churchill and the Admiralty wanted her sunk, to draw America into the war.
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Old May 11, 2015, 01:14 PM
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A full one quarter of all the ships sunk in WWll Atlantic, were sunk just off the coast of the USA. U boats roamed there at will and sunk everything they spotted. The US Navy did nothing to stop these attacks although eventually a few U boats were sunk close to shore and in the Gulf of Mexico. We came a lot closer to speaking German here than most people realize.
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We came a lot closer to speaking German here than most people realize.
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Here's some interesting reading for those who love a good conspiracy.

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A week before the disaster, Winston Churchill had wrote to Walter Runciman, President of the Board of Trade that it was "most important to attract neutral shipping to our shores, in the hopes especially of embroiling the United States with Germany." Many highly-placed persons in Britain and America believed that the German sinking of the Lusitania would bring the United States into the war.
http://lovkap.blogspot.com/2012/03/c...lusitania.html
http://www.lusitania.net/churchill.htm
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Funny you bring that up, Pete. When I lived in Jacksonville, FL I used to visit an old watering hole in Neptune Beach that's been around forever, Pete's Bar. Sounds like your kind of place, in more ways than one.

The patrons that were sitting inside Pete's Bar enjoying their beers one April night in 1942 had front row seats when SS Gulf America was torpedoed offshore, an event that led directly to a blackout on the East Coast & causing many complacent Americans to finally understand that the war was on their door step.

http://jacksonville.com/community/sh...s-gulf-america
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Old May 15, 2015, 06:46 AM
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I hadn't heard of Pete's but it sounds like my kind of place. More than one German U boat captain remarked in his reports about the coast of the USA being all lit up at night. Certainly an easy place to find at that point. I don't recall reading any eye witness accounts of ship sinking by u boats that close in to shore but it would have been very possible. I don't doubt the story one bit. Something we haven't had to do in a very long time is watch a foreign attack on our own soil. Our only attacks seem to all come from within.
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