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Old Dec 04, 2012, 03:16 PM
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Thanks for that information. The vang I have is about 175mm long - I am thinking I can make it work by locating the back attachment point further aft on the boom. Playing around with that today to see if the geometry works out. Posted a few pictures that give you the general idea of how it might look in place. I can always cut the rod to a better length and re-thread it. It should work out ok. I like the look of this vang on the boat, so I guess that means I have to make fit.

I was looking for a pulley for the sheet line to replace the factories devise and found the item below at this link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-10mm-...item337d13fd98


The Block is 10mm wide x 15mm long , 2mm Wide at the bracket
Swivel post is 8mm long, 1.5mm diameter and the deck spacer is 1mm High

Price is $16.00 USD free shipping -

The clip thingy in the boat is about 20mm long overal - hard to get my micrometer inside there. But this one should fit.
Serenity Vang looks good, does it clear your railings full out?
Thanks for the link.
I have a home made pulley I may use, if not, that one will do fine.
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Old Dec 04, 2012, 05:49 PM
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Serenity Vang looks good, does it clear your railings full out?
Thanks for the link.
I have a home made pulley I may use, if not, that one will do fine.
Good question! I just checked and it will clear. The boom in the picture is not as high as it will be when it is fully installed. It was sitting on the top of the helm for the picture.
Should be fine. And if I end up shortening it, the clearance will be increased.

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Old Dec 04, 2012, 11:42 PM
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Magnetic hatch mod

I got the magnetic hatch mod done today, took quite a while but it will be worth it.

Still have to add ballast and install receiver and charging jack.

I'm going to replace the foam under the edge of the hatch with some silicone tubing.
Not sure what size yet, I'll have to experiment. I think the regular size will do it.

And replace the jib sheet, and install the pulley.
And find some way to hang the Canadian flag off the back.

After that, who knows, a crew, some nav lights, registration numbers etc.

Ain't it fun?
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 02:21 AM
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I replaced the turnaround eye with a pulley


and replaced all the bling, with stock Fairwind parts. Pekabe fairleads through the deck for both lines.


I had to return mine to Kyosho because it came to me broken.


It was a quick, painless swap. Haven't had any problems since.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:37 AM
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I replaced the turnaround eye with a pulley


and replaced all the bling, with stock Fairwind parts. Pekabe fairleads through the deck for both lines.


I had to return mine to Kyosho because is came to me broken.


It was a quick, painless swap. Haven't had any problems since.
Woodybob, I think have read your post elsewhere, that's what gave me the idea to put the pulley on the jib line.

I do like the chrome bling on mine, but the Pekabe fairleads are cool.

BTW, where did you get the blue and white lines I see on the boom?
Can't find anything like that.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 11:57 AM
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I'm pretty sure I got that cord years ago from Kyosho. It was what was supplied with my original Fairwind, so I bought extra.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 01:04 PM
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I think you can find that type of line at fishing tackle shop. One of the more popular lines is called Spectra - comes in different tests (strength) and colors. It is known not to stretch or absorb water. It is smooth as well so it slides through the fairleads and pulleys nicely. also sold at most tackle shops

I was cruising around E-bay and located this Pekabe item -477-Single-Compression-Strut-Model- which could make a super nice boom vang here's the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PEKABE-477-S...item3a73a76db6


Parts Supplied
Pressure Screw with Hand Wheel, Washer & Nut
Pekabe 465 Fork Bolt with Washer & Nut
Pekabe 455 Eyebolt with Washer & Nut

Specifications
Overall Length: 3 - 3/16" or 81mm
Fully Closed Pin to Pin
Overall Length: 4 - 1/4" or 106mm
Fully Open Pin to Pin
Weight: 12.2 Grams
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The only Spectra line available around here is dark "moss" green.
Looks like the same brand though.
I haven't run across any other colours.
I use it in my Nirvana and it's pretty much invisible.
Works well though, doesn't drag any water into my radio box, and it's tough stuff.
I use 50# test.

I have noticed a lot of the full sized yachts use different coloured lines for different purposes. For ease of identification in a lot of cases I suspect.

I did buy a roll of 100# test white Spectra on EBay a while ago.
I'm using that on my Fairwind. Soft, limp and tough.
Better than the line supplied.
Easy to work with, but hard to cut cleanly even with very sharp scissors or knife.
Tough stuff!

I kept the nylon cored lines supplied though.
They work well where you need to just have a loop, like tying the main to the boom etc. The stiffness works to your advantage there.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 02:52 PM
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Robert
I think you can find that type of line at fishing tackle shop. One of the more popular lines is called Spectra - comes in different tests (strength) and colors. It is known not to stretch or absorb water. It is smooth as well so it slides through the fairleads and pulleys nicely. also sold at most tackle shops

I was cruising around E-bay and located this Pekabe item -477-Single-Compression-Strut-Model- which could make a super nice boom vang here's the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PEKABE-477-S...item3a73a76db6


Parts Supplied
Pressure Screw with Hand Wheel, Washer & Nut
Pekabe 465 Fork Bolt with Washer & Nut
Pekabe 455 Eyebolt with Washer & Nut

Specifications
Overall Length: 3 - 3/16" or 81mm
Fully Closed Pin to Pin
Overall Length: 4 - 1/4" or 106mm
Fully Open Pin to Pin
Weight: 12.2 Grams
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Pretty hardware for sure.
What is the purpose of the fork bolt, how is that used?
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 03:01 PM
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Great boat, I have the original which is coming up for close on 25 years old, few years ago upgrade her with planked deck & still going great.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...irwind+rebuild
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:54 PM
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Great boat, I have the original which is coming up for close on 25 years old, few years ago upgrade her with planked deck & still going great.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...irwind+rebuild
Very interesting thread KoneWone. Tough old boat.
I have had good results with small planks by running a black Sharpie pen down just one side of each plank before I glue it down. No gaps between planks.
I like the wood plank look too.
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Old Dec 08, 2012, 08:54 PM
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Thanks for all of the great tips and pics of your new builds. I have rigged my new Fairwind III, at least according to all of the stock instructions. Of course, since this is my first boat, I have a few noob questions that I hope you can help with.
I would like to add the pulley for the jib haul as shown in the thread. Would like to get a reference on where to purchase it if possible.
Hoping that someone will post information about how much ballast they use and how to secure it. I am planning on using lead shot instead of the steel beads supplied with the kit. Would like to have a good plan for the ballast so I dont mess anything up.
I have noticed that the running rigging lines are a bit stiff, especially for the jib. Is there a place to get a small quantity of the 100# Spectra line. My local fishing store has Spectra by the yard but only up to 50# test. I bought some of the 50#, but it seems to be so very thin.
Will be anxiousily awaiting further build information in this thread!
Thanks,
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Old Dec 08, 2012, 09:53 PM
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The pulley I used is a Proctor Enterprises product.
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Old Dec 08, 2012, 11:25 PM
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Radio Install

Installed the radio today (orange receiver and satellite)
Also added a battery meter and swapped out the factory switch for a switch harness with a charging jack on it. (That charging jack will not get sealed into the radio box, I'll leave it hanging out)

Had the darnedest time trying to bind the radio, until my foggy memory kicked in about the last time I went through this.

I keep forgetting that I installed a back-light kit in my transmitter a while ago.
If you don't turn that back-light off (I installed a switch at the time), It will not bind.
Not a problem with the new DSM2X receivers but the orange ones are DSM2 only.
They do the job though.

As soon as I remembered that (after a frustrating 45 minutes) it worked fine.

Poured the shot into the keel today too. I jury rigged a funnel to dump it in with (with which to dump it in?) Grammar!
Once it was in, I squeezed about 300ML of lepages white glue into a container and diluted it with some water, so it would pour and run a little better.
The same funnel was used to pour the glue mixture in. Easy cleanup.

From what I read, I may have to add a bit more lead in time, as some people have found the new FW to be a bit tender.
Not going to jump the gun here, I'll wait and form my own opinion on that.
Maybe on real windy days I'll put in some extra removable ballast in the form of flat lead sheets with a string tied to them.
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