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Old Oct 06, 2012, 03:35 PM
An itch?. Scratch build.
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'Traditional', as in parts printed onto the balsa sheet, no laser or die cut kits allowed ?

Only joking. It will be interesting to see just how well a new forum group takes off, and how many new followers it creates. Though I still wonder how long before some 'traditionalist' will also want their separate 'Fuel - Balsa........' section, with no electric power..

Perhaps a bit like the 'Nurflugel' forum, (an aircraft consisting mainly of one large wing and no fuselage or tailplane), breaking away from the 'Flying Wings' forum.

Though I do hope The Builders Workshop continues as it is.
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 03:37 PM
Dragons, Windmills. All Same.
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Ah, and OK. Looks good for 75% yes within a week.
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 05:08 PM
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Ah, and OK. Looks good for 75% yes within a week.
HUH?-it's at 89% now!

The tricky tricks with the title can undermine the understanding of the intent !

" Balsa and lite ply,scratch and kit builds" could not be more clear.....NOT 'traditional',NOT 'woodies',not what mode of power.....

A kit can be printed balsa or laser cut,as long as it consists of what we consider to be "Traditional" parts.We don't need a webster's dictionary to define it..
A Sig Kougar is a kit-It has printed balsa parts,die-cut parts,and foam wing cores with sheeting.plus a plastic cowl...

Nit picking is frivolous,just to get your two cents in-am I right, guys ?
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 05:29 PM
Dragons, Windmills. All Same.
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"This time we need a 75% yes vote on the 12th"

From you Is were I got it. Yes, crystal clear of 89% at the moment.

Whom are those nit picking just to get their two cents in?

The main original title is fine. I agreed and voted Yes. Yet, within the governing rules on RCG, members are free to express themselves.
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 05:41 PM
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I'm just pre-empting the one guy who needs all "I's" dotted and 't's 'crossed....

I can't describe a "kit",but I know one when I see one.

Let me explain those two numbers-we need 75% to get approval-we have 89%-a little 'profit' so to speak.

Sometimes I get my tongue wrapped around my eyetooth,and I can't see what I want to say....sorry.lol
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 05:48 PM
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scale and non-scale?
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 05:53 PM
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It's Ok Earl. I do the same, as it gets easier with less teeth in age.

Sub Forum should be fun shortly
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 06:28 PM
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scale and non-scale?
NO requirements-Read "Kits"
No size limitations.
Same thing for plans-built.
Applies to scratch-built from plans.
Or draw your own plans from three views,then build.
Motive power includes all types.
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Old Oct 07, 2012, 11:34 AM
GEE,...it BEE model time
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GEEEEZZZZ, earl, ease up just a bit, eh? You'd stand a good chance of turning me off of this thread before it even gets started. This was presented as an open forum question, by Jim, for all those showing interest in kit and scratch builds and it would be good if you remember this isn't just about you...or is it?

Soft landings,

Joe
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Old Oct 11, 2012, 04:54 PM
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I think we pretty much all know what a "kit" is. The same for "scratch built".

You don't "build" and ARF, that is done for you. You assemble it.

Ken
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Old Oct 11, 2012, 05:48 PM
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Only 5 hours 10 min left. Will make a great birthday present for me tommorow to see this forum created.
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Old Oct 11, 2012, 05:57 PM
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Only 5 hours 10 min left. Will make a great birthday present for me tommorow to see this forum created.
Oh WOW ! I thought it was NOON tomorrow when it starts...But whenever-

HAPPY BIRTHDAY !
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Old Oct 11, 2012, 06:58 PM
wood is good
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I think we pretty much all know what a "kit" is. The same for "scratch built"...
NOT so fast!

Actually it seems that many members are confused about what starting from "scratch" means. My understanding is that it does not include building to a set of model plans.
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Old Oct 11, 2012, 07:14 PM
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Your understanding is correct.

"Scratch" means "zip" or "nothing." You have an idea, and maybe a 3-view if scale. You make the plans and go from there.

"Plans' means somebody else drew them but you selected and printed and cut out the wood.

"Kit" means you're building to somebody else's plans and they selected the wood. They may have printed the parts on the wood, and perhaps even cut the parts for you.

Within kits there are "short kits" (they provide the cut parts, you provide the sticks and sheets) and "full kits" (they provide the sticks and sheets too).

Then you have ARC's (almost ready to cover) and then ARFs.

Finally you have RTF's.

So what do you have when you buy somebody else's design that he built but sold to you ready to fly??

Answer: Too much money!

Andy
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Old Oct 11, 2012, 08:09 PM
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Earl I could be wrong on the time I just saw October 12 and said hey thats my birthday.
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