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Old Jun 16, 2014, 12:26 AM
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Our local glider field is sort of vaguely almost close to that layout - sometimes

That document has something in it that confuses me.

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Under certain conditions it may be possible to achieve a flying area covering almost 360 as long as care is taken to fulfill Radio Control items 2 and 4 of the official AMA Safety Code. This is especially true for small clubs and general sport flying in rural or low-population-density areas.
Which #2 and #4 are they referring to in the safety code? There are 2ea #2 and #4 lines in the safety code.

Im also not sure what that last sentence means and why it would be the case.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 07:32 AM
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They are talking about the Radio Control Section (B) items 2 and 4, but it might be an older reference, the Safety Code was increased substantially in the past 5 years since AMA has been working with the FAA on the much-delayed NPRM. The current 2/4 items speak to a range check and use of approved FCC frequencies only ... clauses that don't do much for setting a flight area.

Because of the nature of thermal flight ("pure" and winch-in-the-nose) makes operation at extreme altitude and distance from the pilot the norm, the overall Safety Code parameter (at least to me) is flight within visual line of sight ... and that will be different for every pilot at the flight line. No-fly zones and altitude limits are common modifiers of flight areas in soaring (no flight over the pits less than two tents high, don't fly over the police station across the street).

As in life, I believe that common sense should be the modelers' guide when setting up a flying field.a. I don't have access to a safety code document older than 2012.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 08:09 AM
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There is a recommended flying field layout for soaring in the fling site recommendations document http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/706.pdf
I forgot about that. That is at least some justification for what we do.

Ryan
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 04:28 PM
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At my advanced age I am amazed, nay bemused, that so much space has been devoted to such an issue as this.
I have CD'd about 40 contests from local club events to major regional sailplane and LMR events. Such an issue has NEVER arisen. Most flyers of sailplanes, no matter how they are launched, seem to use common sense when it comes to safety and model construction.
I could say that 'common sense' is not so common any more, but that would be trite.

over and out.

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Old Jun 16, 2014, 04:43 PM
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IAIN,

Glad we could serve as a source of amusement! RC Groups is ultimately a source of entertainment.

Ryan
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 05:36 PM
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...but that would be trite.
Indeed ... yet true
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 09:32 PM
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at my advanced age i am amzed, nay bemused, that so much space has been devoted to such an issue as this.
I have cd'd about 40 contests from local club events to major regional sailplane and lmr events. Such an issue has never arisen. Most flyers of sailplanes, no matter how they are launched, seem to use common sense when it comes to safety and model construction.
I could say that 'common sense' is not so common any more, but that would be trite.

Over and out.

Iain


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Old Jun 16, 2014, 09:40 PM
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IAIN,

Glad we could serve as a source of amusement! RC Groups is ultimately a source of entertainment.

Ryan
Dont forget the occasional bit of irritation if you take things a bit too seriously
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 09:49 PM
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Dont forget the occasional bit of irritation if you take things a bit too seriously
Yes, you are welcome for the irritation for those of you that enjoy that sort of thing.

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Old Jun 17, 2014, 11:50 AM
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should my table saw blade have a smooth nut or a regular nut?
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 11:55 AM
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Sometimes you feel like a nut. Sometimes you don't.

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Old Jun 17, 2014, 12:44 PM
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Doesn't matter on me table saws provided one uses a Left handed nut, as Right handed Nuts seems to loose their heads in practical everyday use.
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Old Jun 19, 2014, 11:04 PM
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Horizon sent me replacement blades and fuselage for the radian I had that the hub blew up on. While I'm moving the gear to the new fuselage I put the blades on this spinner/hub for my allegro.

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Old Jun 20, 2014, 01:12 AM
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Shiny!
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Old Jun 20, 2014, 01:17 AM
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MrE,

Does Ryans new gear installation meet with your contest entry requirements?
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