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Old Mar 30, 2012, 11:37 AM
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Appendicitis...

Just got out of hospital ,following an emergency appendictomy..got a couple rants..

On the one hand ,i understand ER doctors being somewhat leary about "paitents" coming in off the street complaing of "vague " pains seeking immediate relief(pain killers)...especially if they don't bring any proof of insurance with them.I get that.

At the same time ,what happens to those with a geniune medical emergency?unless you arrive by ambulance they get thrown under the bus ....thats what happens.I arrived at the ER at appx 3 am...no one else in the waiting room...my wife and son brought me there in my PJs ,in our excitement to get there ,all thoughts to grabbing my wallet or cellphone etc were forgotten.W/O proof of insurance didnt see the triage nurse til appx nearly 4am...I don't guess they like patients coming in with self diagnosises either cause I knew what was wrong with me but they werent willing to check it out.I know that gotta do blood work first as well as urine anylsis etc etc ...as it was though it was nearly 7am before I ever saw a doctor...he ordered a CT scan.I remember going up to the CT room ,they laying me out under the ring and then nothing ...evidently my appendix burst while I was undergoing the procedure.After that I have no memory til I woke in my room .In the meantime My wife had secured my insurance information and suddenly I was someone noteworthy again....moral of story...If you have insurance make damn sure you have proof of it when you go in ,otherwise you are just another deadbeat looking for drugs.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 12:16 PM
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Sounds like a miserable experience.

My appendix ruptured when I was 4 years old and I still remember the agony of it. Passed out in the car as my mom rushed me to the hospital and woke up the next day wondering what the heck had happened.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 12:20 PM
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I think you mainly had bad timing for arriving there in the wee hours, verses a non-insurance prejudice, but maybe not. You might also have picked a hospital with a lousy ER.

We recently went to an ER and the woman in the next bed was clearly there only to get pain drugs, as the doctor's questions and statements clearly indicated he knew she was trying to scam them. We left before there was a resolution to her "pain" but my impression was she was going to get some drugs, along with a fourth CT scan in three months (she had been to other hospitals).

Check your hospital bill carefully, ours had one charge that was clearly an unnecessary test mistake. We got them to remove it.

Congratulations on surviving your ordeal.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 12:27 PM
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Just got out of hospital ,following an emergency appendictomy..got a couple rants..

On the one hand ,i understand ER doctors being somewhat leary about "paitents" coming in off the street complaing of "vague " pains seeking immediate relief(pain killers)...especially if they don't bring any proof of insurance with them.I get that.

At the same time ,what happens to those with a geniune medical emergency?unless you arrive by ambulance they get thrown under the bus ....thats what happens.I arrived at the ER at appx 3 am...no one else in the waiting room...my wife and son brought me there in my PJs ,in our excitement to get there ,all thoughts to grabbing my wallet or cellphone etc were forgotten.W/O proof of insurance didnt see the triage nurse til appx nearly 4am...I don't guess they like patients coming in with self diagnosises either cause I knew what was wrong with me but they werent willing to check it out.I know that gotta do blood work first as well as urine anylsis etc etc ...as it was though it was nearly 7am before I ever saw a doctor...he ordered a CT scan.I remember going up to the CT room ,they laying me out under the ring and then nothing ...evidently my appendix burst while I was undergoing the procedure.After that I have no memory til I woke in my room .In the meantime My wife had secured my insurance information and suddenly I was someone noteworthy again....moral of story...If you have insurance make damn sure you have proof of it when you go in ,otherwise you are just another deadbeat looking for drugs.
Wow, that's horrible.

Glad that it worked out for you in the end though and that you are all fixed up and on the mend.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 12:56 PM
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I think you mainly had bad timing for arriving there in the wee hours, verses a non-insurance prejudice, but maybe not. You might also have picked a hospital with a lousy ER.

We recently went to an ER and the woman in the next bed was clearly there only to get pain drugs, as the doctor's questions and statements clearly indicated he knew she was trying to scam them. We left before there was a resolution to her "pain" but my impression was she was going to get some drugs, along with a fourth CT scan in three months (she had been to other hospitals).

Check your hospital bill carefully, ours had one charge that was clearly an unnecessary test mistake. We got them to remove it.

Congratulations on surviving your ordeal.
Perhaps it was a wee hours thing perhaps not.This was the same hospital were I was treated for my heart attaclk last year...same insurance carrier too,you'd think they'd cross reference those things.I survived ,thats the important thing ,though I didn't appreciate the being treated like a second class citizen this go around.Believe me the ,hospital administration has gotten an earful
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Perhaps it was a wee hours thing perhaps not.This was the same hospital were I was treated for my heart attaclk last year...same insurance carrier too,you'd think they'd cross reference those things.I survived ,thats the important thing ,though I didn't appreciate the being treated like a second class citizen this go around.Believe me the ,hospital administration has gotten an earful
I have to show my card every time I go to Dr, or clinic or ER. Surely they have me on file by now. It bears on ridiculous. I took a sample to the lab with a doctors requisition, and they wanted to see the card.

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Old Mar 30, 2012, 01:24 PM
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Sorry to hear you had a bad ER experience. I've had a bunch of them.

Just FYI, West Virginia is constantly near the top of the ER visits per person.

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comp...8&sort=a&gsa=2
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 01:36 PM
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Perhaps it was a wee hours thing perhaps not.This was the same hospital were I was treated for my heart attaclk last year...same insurance carrier too,you'd think they'd cross reference those things.I survived ,thats the important thing ,though I didn't appreciate the being treated like a second class citizen this go around.Believe me the ,hospital administration has gotten an earful
And I bet he paid close attention because if you talked to a lawyer.......he might be a little afraid you would have some damages coming
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 01:37 PM
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Sorry to hear you had a bad ER experience. I've had a bunch of them.

Just FYI, West Virginia is constantly near the top of the ER visits per person.

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comp...8&sort=a&gsa=2
Yeah i get that too....the irony of the situation is that I disdain taking any narcotic substances un-necessarily ,while the doc gave me a script for a very strong analgesic (i'm told its street value is immense)I've yet to fill it.Using over the counter pain meds instead.some pain is a good thing,it reminds you to slow down ,dont rush things,take it easy til the pain is gone.. 400 mg of advil vs 6 mg liduadid(synthetic herion )no wonder druggies want this stuff.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 02:38 PM
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And I bet he paid close attention because if you talked to a lawyer.......he might be a little afraid you would have some damages coming
I'm not one to file a malpractice suit unless given good cause.In the end they took care of the problem ,plus repaired a previouly unknown/diagnosed hernia while they were rooting around in there ...under the circumstances I can let somethings go..
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 02:44 PM
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I'm not one to file a malpractice suit unless given good cause.In the end they took care of the problem ,plus repaired a previouly unknown/diagnosed hernia while they were rooting around in there ...under the circumstances I can let somethings go..
I'm with you on that thought. Never sued anyone.....yet. When my hip dislocated after replacement and the Dr. said, "I know what I did wrong and I will fix it tomorrow" and then did. Why would you want to sue him? We all make mistakes and we should correct them when we can.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 02:48 PM
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Just pretend not to speak english. Then you won't have to provide ID or most importantly a SS#. You'll get treated right away and never get a bill.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 03:31 PM
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Just pretend not to speak english. Then you won't have to provide ID or most importantly a SS#. You'll get treated right away and never get a bill.
Yeah?

You're the second person to say something like that recently.

How do you tell the medical staff what's wrong with you though,? You could go in with appendicitis and come out with a new knee.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 03:37 PM
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Yeah?

You're the second person to say something like that recently.

How do you tell the medical staff what's wrong with you though,? You could go in with appendicitis and come out with a new knee.
That's better than coming out with a 75K bill. If you are doubled over, holding "that" spot, they won't work on your knee!!
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 03:40 PM
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That's better than coming out with a 75K bill. If you are doubled over, holding "that" spot, they won't work on your knee!!
Sounds like y'all need some form of health reform, so that folks get treatment first, then the hospital can sort out the details of who will be paying, later on.
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