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Old Nov 04, 2014, 10:54 PM
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2M ACC One Design Newport RI

Had a great day of testing with four 2m ACC One Designs today in Newport, RI.
A few pics, Gopro from onboard "Prada" to follow soon.

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Old Nov 05, 2014, 04:01 AM
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This is a humble reminder that there is always somebody out there with a better boat!

Absolutely superb chaps, great boats, great location to sail them
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Old Nov 05, 2014, 07:49 AM
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Awesome looking boats... I'll bet they fly in a breeze..

Where are you sourcing the masts from?
How tall are they?
Do they have a groove in them for a bolt rope?

Thanks,
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Old Nov 05, 2014, 08:20 AM
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I have another questions: What is the sail material used?
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Old Nov 05, 2014, 08:21 AM
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Thanks guys, they are a blast to sail for sure.

We make the masts in house, they are 12mm X 28mm with internal boltrope groove.
All carbon section weight 8 ounces at 93 inches with gooesenck and vang attachments molded in.
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I have another questions: What is the sail material used?
There's a bunch of different material you see there, mainly samples form fabric companies I work with. http://www.friessaildesign.com/
The clear sails are just raw film, the kevlar jibs material came form Challenge Sailcloth, the Black fabric form Contender. White main on "Prada' is leftover '92 Cuben Fiber from A3.

Still trying to find the "right" cloth fr these boats. the load is pretty high so we need something pretty low stretch but not to heavy.
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Old Nov 05, 2014, 08:51 AM
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Very nice, John! Have you tried the Dimension Polyant ODL material? It may be too heavy at 2.2 oz but works well on my big tri.
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Old Nov 05, 2014, 08:59 AM
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Very nice, John! Have you tried the Dimension Polyant ODL material? It may be too heavy at 2.2 oz but works well on my big tri.
The yellow jib above is very similar to the ODL at 2 ounces. Fine for the "b" sails we use but a bit to heavy for the "a" set. Still searching for just the right thing.,
May take a trip up to Dimension soon and see what else the might have, it's only 45 minutes from my house.
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Old Nov 05, 2014, 10:20 AM
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Hi John

Do you recall what weight the Cuben is? I'm just getting ready to try some .74 oz stuff for one of my RG65 boats. It is very light, but not sure what top end wind strength for it might be.

Thanks in advance for your response, nice looking boats.

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Old Nov 05, 2014, 11:08 AM
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The Cuben we have here is around .8 oz +/- and is a little different than what you'd get from them now. It uses mylar film that is .25 mil/.25mil and spread tow spectra in the warp with a tiny fill yarn. Newer Cuben is made by using sheets of spectra/dyneema vs yarn and often times uses tedlar for film.
The cuben you're looking at using should never fail in that application, I have seen some severe shrinkage issues with it in the lighter weights.
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Old Nov 05, 2014, 02:10 PM
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Thanks John - I will proceed to use it for my "A" sails, but will see how they work out, and also take a look at some of the heavier weight stuff.

When you say "shrinkage" - does that also include the opposite as in "stretch"?
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it won't stretch the issue you may have will be shrinkage. I used tons of Cuben over the years for full size sailmaking. The best application for it was always larger boats in heavier weights with lots of bias plys, this helped stop a lot of the shrinkage.
For example I did quite a few sails for Playstation/Cheyenne in Cuben, they were 11-12 ounce fabric.
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Thanks guys, they are a blast to sail for sure.

We make the masts in house, they are 12mm X 28mm with internal boltrope groove.
All carbon section weight 8 ounces at 93 inches with gooesenck and vang attachments molded in.
Thank you for the information.

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John, those boats look like SAILBOTs except remote control instead of programmed control.
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