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Old Mar 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
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Now is the time to speak up

The Park Service and many others are working on a plan to reinvigorate the DC MALL. One partner is "The Trust for the National Mall". It wants to create "the finest park in the world."
This is an opportunity for you to participate in this process.
My models range from 8 inches to over six feet LOD. Thus a "model boat storage facility" near the DC Mall ponds, pools and basin would be very helpful to folks with large model sailboats.
This may also be an opportunity to get expert advice about the alleged danger of radio controlled bombs carried on model sailboats. So step up and provide your advice and opinions on these topics.
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Old Apr 11, 2013, 09:50 PM
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this should solve your problem......
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Old Apr 15, 2013, 01:10 PM
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model dhows sailing on the dc reflecting pools

Since Congress and the Capitol Police have banned radio controlled model sailboats from the reflecting pools on The National Mall we now can consider all sorts of free sailing models. Perhaps a free sailing model Dhow will be a good model. See "The Dhow ..." ISBN 0 245 5265.2 or "To Harness the Wind" by Leo Block ISBN 1-5575 209 at p. 16, 17. Apparently Dhows only had one set of shrouds which were switched from side to side when the Dhow tacked. Thus two knowledgeable sailors will be needed for each sailboat.
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Old Apr 15, 2013, 07:39 PM
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George, in "Men, Ships, and the Sea" (published by Nat.Geographic) there is a photo on pg 44-45 showing a 2 masted dhow with shrouds on both sides of both masts.

On page 48-49, there's a photo of a single masted sambuck (lateen rigged, looks like a dhow hull) with shrouds and backstays on only the windward side.

The text accompanying the sambuck says"To change tack, a dhow wears ship - swings its stern to the wind. Sailors haul the yard upright, pull the sheet around, and shove the foot of the yard to the opposite side." If this is correct, then there would be no advantage to having only a single set of shrouds, it seems to me, since the shrouds would not interfere with the yard.
On the other hand:
Harland writes of tacking lateen rigs 2 ways: yard before the mast (ala the sambuck), and yard aft of the mast. If the yard is hauled behind the mast, then having removeable shrouds would simplify things. I think it's always puzzled western sailors how a lateen rig can tack - moving the yard behind the mast, like a gaff moves, has always presented problems with the leeward-soon-to-be-windward shrouds. The dhows have steeply forward raked masts, and the shrouds would be especially troublesome....but if they can be removed, and quickly reattached, then that would simplify things :-).
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