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Old Apr 06, 2015, 11:14 AM
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hi guys im looking for a inexpensive poly dihedral powered glider to do some thermal chasing. currently i'm considering a Flyfly Trendy Electric 2.25m Glider , Flyfly Grob-G-103 PT-PJG 3m Electric Glider With Brake even though its a flat wing, Flyfly DG-808S 4m/157'' RC Glider Electric Motor Version. id prefer a 3+ meter ship, doesn't have to be poly dihedral wing. just something that will thermal good. maybe even something that doesn't have a motor that can launch from a up start, or high start. i have access to one. i do have a HK Phoenix 2600, but don't know if its a good thermal ship. need to look for a string here on it.

any suggestions if the above don't sound good would be greatly appreciated.

Jerry
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Old Apr 07, 2015, 09:34 PM
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Your post is kinda all over the place so I am just going to recommend the one I like.

Parkzone Radian - One of the best.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/radian-rtf-pkz4700
or
http://www.horizonhobby.com/radian-pnp-pkz4775

If you want something for a hi-start in the 3M range: bird of time
http://www.hobbyclub.com/product_inf...roducts_id=468

Art Hobby has a nice selection
http://www.arthobby.com/
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Old Apr 08, 2015, 09:47 AM
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wow! Art Hobby has some very nice ships. is there any advantages over a V tail over a T tail, or is it just personnel preference? always wanted to ask, but never did till now.

i got a radian pro, but to me it seems to be more suited to be a warm liner than thermal ship. VERY VERY good flyer even in 10+ mph wind due to its weight. probably very nice at a slope id bet.

id like to get a scale type fuse, but probably not the best due to its extra weight in the fuse correct?

LOL ya i guess your right. i am all over the place on what i want. heres how i got to this question.

im ready to step up to a composite ship. not that foam sucks. i like and have quite a few foamie e gliders, and do like them, but want a composite ship 3+ meter wing span.

next came the thought of a scale ship. they just look so nice to me.

then came a DLG into the scene. bought a ELF. i figured a 1m DLG would be a good starter ship made scence because my shoulders might not like throwing the plane in the air, but it could be launched with just half the spin. we shale see. im out on comp due to a shoulder issue.

witch got me thinking that a straight thermal ship would be nice. yesterday i realized there are a lot of flat/shallow dihedral ships out there claiming to be thermal ships.

as we both agree that im all over the place on what i want, but now you mite understand how i got there. taking the DLG out of the equation is there a such animal the can do what i described above with a bit more thermaling capabilities built in that wont be over a $300 budget?

i like this even though its over my budget, but i have a guy interested in my 2 helis im trying to sell to finance what ever i decide to get.
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The original Radian is a MUCH better thermal ship than the Radian Pro, for typical conditions. The Radian is good to about 10 mph if you add a ballast rod to the wing rod. I love mine. It is my back-up contest glider for ALES contests. I also have a fleet of high end composite ships with molded wings for the winch and ALES but the Radian gets a lot of air time.


Art Hobby
gives you a very nice mid ground and you can buy a second fuse so you can have one wing with two fuselages. Launch on winch, hi-start or slope with the pure fuse. Launch with the electric fuse when you wish.

The Art Hobby planes require a LOT less work than a kit but more than the typical ARF. You typically have to cut out any wing surfaces and you have to glue the wing halves together on some of them. Not a big deal.

The wings are foam core with a black walnut skin. If you like the wood you can stain and finish with clear varnish and they come up BEAUTIFULLY! However you can also paint them or use shrink film converging on them too. Whatever you like.

In the Art Hobby line I think the Odyssey 2.7M RES would be a good one for you to consider
http://www.arthobby.com/index.php?pa...ry=32&item=387
I am sure you could order it with two fuselages to have one pure and one electric.

If you like more of an open wing design then look at Esprit.
http://www.espritmodel.com/sailplanes.aspx

The Super Sport is a full house built up wing that is available as pure or electric so you could get two fuses with one wing
http://www.espritmodel.com/super-spo...e-arc-arf.aspx

In a full house configuration the Gracia 3.1 might be a good choice, only available in electric but they might have a pure glider fuse that would work with that wing.
http://www.espritmodel.com/gracia-31e-f5jales-arf.aspx

Or the Avia 2.5m full house e-glider. Don't think there is an pure glider fuse for this one but speak to Esprit, there might be an option.
http://www.espritmodel.com/avia-2-5e...s-arc-arf.aspx



V tail vs. cross tail? Very much a fashion statement really. However if you are landing on longer grass with sticks and tufts the V tail tends to take less damage because of the up sweep. A standard or cross tail has that horizontal stab that gets hit by everything. Typically not a big issue but that is one advantage of V tail. I prefer regular tail but others prefer V. Get what you like.
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One more option and this one might the #1 perfect option based on your original requirements.


The Oculus - This is a RES kit that is available with both fuselages. 3.1M
The fuse is molded so no real building there.
The spar is all built so you just put on the ribs, LE, TE and cover.
You could almost call this a semi-kit.
http://www.mmglidertech.com/oculus.php

Been doing well in competition too.
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