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Old May 20, 2011, 11:46 AM
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New DSM2 Compatible Receivers

Has anyone used the new HK DSM2 compatible (orange) four channel receivers?

What are your thoughts on range and reliability?
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Old May 22, 2011, 09:27 AM
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I can't speak for the 4 channel but I have a number of 6 channel orange receivers and haven't had a bit of trouble with any of them. They pass the standard range check and I've had planes out pretty far and not a glitch.

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Old May 22, 2011, 10:43 AM
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Thanks Bob, I'm leaning toward getting a couple since they are so cheap but I just want to be sure they are reliable, I don't want to shoot down my own plane..
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Old May 31, 2011, 10:09 AM
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Admittedly I'm a bit wary of these and don't use them in anything that I really would worry about, but so far (knock on wood/foam/fiberglas) I've been quite happy with them.

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Old Jun 04, 2011, 06:32 PM
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Admittedly I'm a bit wary of these and don't use them in anything that I really would worry about, but so far (knock on wood/foam/fiberglas) I've been quite happy with them.

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Have used in my super cub, and some 800mm mini with my Dx6i and have not had any problems. Have not used with anything larger as am gathering more flying time on the orange rx So answer works well with Dx6i
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Old Jun 04, 2011, 06:47 PM
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There are many reports and tests on these in the radio forum. Some go back a year or 2.

I've never had a glitch with any of the substitute RX's.
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Old Jun 05, 2011, 12:32 PM
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Okay, with this post I'm really showing my age, but when I was last heavily involved in the RC hobby, there were no 2.4 ghz, no orange, nothing like that, so I am learning as I go about this. What advantage do I gain with a sat? If the receiver works without a sat, when and why do I add a sat?

What limitations are you guys putting on the use of the 'orange' receivers..is it size, speed, range, or all of the above? IE: what are the limits of an 'orange' receiver without a sat?
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Old Jun 06, 2011, 08:08 PM
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Okay, with this post I'm really showing my age, but when I was last heavily involved in the RC hobby, there were no 2.4 ghz, no orange, nothing like that, so I am learning as I go about this. What advantage do I gain with a sat? If the receiver works without a sat, when and why do I add a sat?

What limitations are you guys putting on the use of the 'orange' receivers..is it size, speed, range, or all of the above? IE: what are the limits of an 'orange' receiver without a sat?
daddyrabbit,

long story short, 2.4ghz waves can run into blind spots. The satellite helps with that. Here's a quick and information read:

http://www.spektrumrc.com/DSM/Techno...dFeatures.aspx

The orange 6 ch as well as 4 ch are designed and marketed as parkflier, and when flown within it's designed means is perfectly safe.

In my own testing, the 6 channel can easily do .5 miles(2500+ feet), but does lose range after .5 miles. I can easily and safely fly anything under 5 feet with this...since I can no longer saftely fly the plane past 1000 ft at this size. Range testing for the 6 ch ranges averages 35 paces, but I have a few that does do 50 paces and a few that are less...so test, test test.

As for the 4 channel...I just got one in today, and I gotta say I'm very impressed- range testing seems to be clear past 50 paces (150 ft). It's a very windy day so it was hard to tell after 50 paces...so I stopped. I'm betting I can get more than the .5 miles that the 6 channel got.

There's that new one, the 9 ch, which supposely has been tested at 1.5 miles. I have one coming in about 2-3 weeks. will test that one.

Oh BTW Top, you shouldn't buy any of these. They are from HK after all.

You should get these from these great vendors:

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/spektrum_...18593_prd1.htm
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/ar600_dsm...34152_prd1.htm

http://www.advantagehobby.com/produc...162501&cat=474

this one is very cool. 10 channels...wow
http://www.advantagehobby.com/produc...182354&cat=474
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Old Jun 06, 2011, 08:36 PM
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I bought a couple of the 6 channel orange ones from a modeler here on RCGroups. They are sat capable, but the sat was not included for his price of $22 delivered for a pair of them. They are supposed to work with my Futaba 10C, so I will check them out when I get a round tuit. 35 paces is his pre-sale range test, but will verify before using them in a couple of feather weight models.

At 1/2 mile, I doubt I could see a model with a five foot wingspan well enough to recognize its attitude, so nothing I'm flying would exceed that distance unless I fall asleep or keel over while flying.

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daddyrabbit,

long story short, 2.4ghz waves can run into blind spots. The satellite helps with that. Here's a quick and information read:

http://www.spektrumrc.com/DSM/Techno...dFeatures.aspx

The orange 6 ch as well as 4 ch are designed and marketed as parkflier, and when flown within it's designed means is perfectly safe.

In my own testing, the 6 channel can easily do .5 miles(2500+ feet), but does lose range after .5 miles. I can easily and safely fly anything under 5 feet with this...since I can no longer saftely fly the plane past 1000 ft at this size. Range testing for the 6 ch ranges averages 35 paces, but I have a few that does do 50 paces and a few that are less...so test, test test.

As for the 4 channel...I just got one in today, and I gotta say I'm very impressed- range testing seems to be clear past 50 paces (150 ft). It's a very windy day so it was hard to tell after 50 paces...so I stopped. I'm betting I can get more than the .5 miles that the 6 channel got.

There's that new one, the 9 ch, which supposely has been tested at 1.5 miles. I have one coming in about 2-3 weeks. will test that one.

Oh BTW Top, you shouldn't buy any of these. They are from HK after all.
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Old Jun 06, 2011, 08:42 PM
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I bought a couple of the 6 channel orange ones from a modeler here on RCGroups. They are sat capable, but the sat was not included for his price of $22 delivered for a pair of them. They are supposed to work with my Futaba 10C, so I will check them out when I get a round tuit. 35 paces is his pre-sale range test, but will verify before using them in a couple of feather weight models.

At 1/2 mile, I doubt I could see a model with a five foot wingspan well enough to recognize its attitude, so nothing I'm flying would exceed that distance unless I fall asleep or keel over while flying.
hmmmm....unless it's these

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=14300

it's not going to work with your Futaba. Futaba is FASST
the orange 6 ch is DSM2 (spekrum, JR)

You might want to double check with the seller.

BWT - $11 each shipped is a great buy. HK has them for $6.99, but you gotta wait, and the shipping from HK is expensive + you can get a dud.
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If you look at the Spektrum radios you will see that several have as many as four satellite receivers distributed throughout the plane. This is usually for IMA and giant scale stuff where maximum range without gaps in RF signal are necessary.

I have flown my P-40 at least 3500 feet away using a single AR-600. These are claimed to be full range receivers. There were a couple of guys at my club who bought several of the aftermarket DSM-2 compatible receivers. One of them lost it's bind with the transmitter causing a minor crash. So far the replacement seems to work OK.

Here is a Spektrum radio with satellites. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...odID=JRPR1222X
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Old Jun 06, 2011, 08:54 PM
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No, you're right. When I bought the Rx's, I was thinking I could use them with either my Futaba or or Hitec Tx because I have a Spektrum modlule that works with either Tx, but will probably use the module with the Hitec Tx anyway and save the Futaba Tx for FASST Rx's.

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hmmmm....unless it's these

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=14300

it's not going to work with your Futaba. Futaba is FASST
the orange 6 ch is DSM2 (spekrum, JR)

You might want to double check with the seller.

BWT - $11 each shipped is a great buy. HK has them for $6.99, but you gotta wait, and the shipping from HK is expensive + you can get a dud.
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I have a Futaba 72 MHZ system but I went with Spectrum (JR) for my 2.4 GHZ system. I think the Futaba system is probably better but the receivers are really expensive.
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Old Jun 06, 2011, 10:11 PM
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When I first started flying RC, there was no Futaba. When Futaba came along, they became the 'working man's' radio. All the Kraft radio guys were old farts like me (now) who had the money to spend on Kraft and they really looked down their noses at we who bought and used Futaba. Futaba just kept getting better and better through the years and a lot of other radios came and went. I suppose I like Futaba more out of habit than anything else, because from everything I have heard, there are other good radios out there. I own a Hitec that has been a good radio since I've owned it. You are right, the Futaba receivers sure have gotten pricey, but I have confidence in them. I think the next Futaba receiver I buy will be an S-Bus. Need to learn the new technology before I fade away.

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I have a Futaba 72 MHZ system but I went with Spectrum (JR) for my 2.4 GHZ system. I think the Futaba system is probably better but the receivers are really expensive.
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