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Old May 12, 2014, 06:22 PM
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Thanks jcstalls. I'm trying to put the price point at where I'd jump on it too.
Hopefully the cost will come down on manufacturing and I can afford to make more things too

So far, l've just got my detachable wings to sort out and I'll be ready for a maiden soon.
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 12:11 PM
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Thanks for the good info in the thread. Is there a current coupon code that can be used for this to knock off shipping or bring the price down a bit more?

Edit: found it
Summer12 for 12% off
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Old Aug 18, 2014, 12:49 AM
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Anyone ever use this wing retainer system? Looks promising.

http://www.espritmodel.com/wing-reta...ck-mini-2.aspx
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Old Aug 18, 2014, 06:20 AM
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Anyone ever use this wing retainer system? Looks promising.

http://www.espritmodel.com/wing-reta...ck-mini-2.aspx
I bought them but decided against installing them in a foam wing.
They should be fine on plywood.
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Old Aug 18, 2014, 09:29 AM
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It looks like the Nitroplanes Swift is the Samurai previously sold by Hobby Lobby.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1497180
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Old Aug 18, 2014, 04:51 PM
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It is the same.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 09:17 PM
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I had a Samurai and it was awesome until I lost connectivity on the maiden flight. Lawn dart.
I don't think the Swift is quite up to being the same plane. Some subtle differences. I still may buy one and use my Samurai parts to get it into the air. Not much room to put your RX antennas at 90 degrees to each other. May tape them outside the next build. Really need that little gully in nose floor. If I didn't already have the parts I think I would pass on this. If I could pickup a true Samurai kit for this price I would jump on it. I don't understand why they gave up on this glider.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 01:23 PM
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I just found this thread today wondering who else would be flying this inexpensive and fantastic rc glider. A friend gave me one.

My initial observations: Typical of most powered rc gliders, this will be nose heavy with an approximate weight of 2 pounds, wing loading about 10.75 oz per square foot. This plane will be fast and will require some power to perform well.

I maidened yesterday. It flew fast with or without power, especially for my age (nearly 81). Flying fast generates lift and landing becomes difficult. I have not tried flap/spoilerons (butterfly) as my knees were shaking and I was afraid to do anything I am not accustomed to.

My set-up:

Two tail servos on the tail surfaces (BTW, I find the stock tail surfaces don't look aggressive enough, I changed to a V-Tail). Recommended CofG worked with no additional ballast with lots of battery room to play with.

Flap servo in the wing. This allows me to attach/detach the wing from the fuse with two screws and one multi-wire connector.

Motor: Turnigy 2836 1000kv with a 10"x6" folding prop (recommended is 10"x5" prop). The motor might get overloaded, perhaps not as I power up for about 20 seconds, then soar. Nevertheless, I will do some power measurements.

Battery: Nanotech 1800 mAh, 3S.

Conclusion: If I can overcome my nerves, should be lots of fun.

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Old Nov 15, 2014, 08:40 PM
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81 and still flying? Bless you! I hope to do that when I get to your age.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 09:15 PM
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My Swift is still in the box. Very little done. Life has just gotten in the way...
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Old Jan 03, 2015, 12:31 AM
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I have been looking over HK and was wondering if anyone could recommend a few good servos for this model. Thanks.
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Old Jan 04, 2015, 07:15 AM
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Servos and Other fun

I run TGY-9025 metal gear servos in the fuselage (3) and flat digital E-Max servos (2) in the wings for ailerons (they're covered and I can't remember the model number).The kit is not the best, but in the end it does glide quite nicely. I do run crow / butterfly and that definitely helps with spot landings. The flap and ailerons need to match when in butterfly to achieve best performance and keep it from ballooning or diving. That just takes some work to tune. Play with it at altitude; as always. I run a 3s 800mA for the many motor pack and a 2s 700mA LIFE pack for the receiver and servos. This way if I run the power pack all the way down I don't run out of juice to operate the receiver and servos as I continue to glide around. I have it setup to be a powered glider and not a speeding dart. Therefore the power plant is setup to be for a solid step climb out and not vertical flight (power to weight; ... this is already a heavy setup). At the end of the day, this powered glider flies great once setup. I run a Taranis radio with telemetry and an altimeter and have it announce my altitude every 100ft. I climb out to 500ft, shutoff the power to the motor (make sure you have braking turned on so the folding prop folds and does not windmill). Without serious thermals and playing around with a little flap input to slow it up and maintain as much lift I can keep it up for ~5min. Between multiple climb outs and glides I fly for between 20-30minutes. With good thermal performance (which this glider will take advantage of, the sky is the limit. Sure there are other more high performance platforms for a lot more $$$coin, but for the price this is a great glider once complete and setup and an even better one to learn on; it is a full house glider. I'm happy learning the art of soaring with it.
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Old Jan 04, 2015, 01:55 PM
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I run TGY-9025 metal gear servos in the fuselage (3) and flat digital E-Max servos (2) in the wings for ailerons (they're covered and I can't remember the model number).The kit is not the best, but in the end it does glide quite nicely. I do run crow / butterfly and that definitely helps with spot landings. The flap and ailerons need to match when in butterfly to achieve best performance and keep it from ballooning or diving. That just takes some work to tune. Play with it at altitude; as always. I run a 3s 800mA for the many motor pack and a 2s 700mA LIFE pack for the receiver and servos. This way if I run the power pack all the way down I don't run out of juice to operate the receiver and servos as I continue to glide around. I have it setup to be a powered glider and not a speeding dart. Therefore the power plant is setup to be for a solid step climb out and not vertical flight (power to weight; ... this is already a heavy setup). At the end of the day, this powered glider flies great once setup. I run a Taranis radio with telemetry and an altimeter and have it announce my altitude every 100ft. I climb out to 500ft, shutoff the power to the motor (make sure you have braking turned on so the folding prop folds and does not windmill). Without serious thermals and playing around with a little flap input to slow it up and maintain as much lift I can keep it up for ~5min. Between multiple climb outs and glides I fly for between 20-30minutes. With good thermal performance (which this glider will take advantage of, the sky is the limit. Sure there are other more high performance platforms for a lot more $$$coin, but for the price this is a great glider once complete and setup and an even better one to learn on; it is a full house glider. I'm happy learning the art of soaring with it.
Nice write-up!
I feed my Rx through a UBEC off the balance plug of the main battery.
That way I do not have to worry about two packs being charged.
The Rx uses so little power that even when the ESC would go into cut-off on the motor (not advisable in any case to drain the battery that low!), there will still be ample juice left for the Rx.
I am amazed that you get that much service out of an 800mA 3S.
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Old Jan 06, 2015, 09:24 PM
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Thank you. I hear you on the ubec and the overall current draw; but my thought is that if I hit some booming thermals and continue to stay up I don't want to over discharge my LiPo pack having fun thermaling. Over discharged LiPos can become dangerous with puffing, shorting and fire. That is one reason I am using the LiFe pack as the power source for the receiver and servos. LiFe packs die quietly if it came to that; and then hopefully I still retrieve the glider... That aside I do have voltage sensing on the pack as part of the telemetry data. Looking at my logs I climb from the field to 500ft AGL in 1 minute using a 10x6 folding prop on a 3S pack driving an E-Max CF2822 motor. I would not suggest this motor as it's a bell type and requires a custom design nose cone to cover it as it has to mount outside the airframe. I did custom design a 3d printable nose cone that integrates the motor inside with cooling through the tip.

Which brings up a good point, the metal fire wall is poorly secured to the fiberglass fuselage, be careful trusting it without additional anchoring. If you mount the motor internal (as intended) that may be enough? I've already loss a motor on an accidental high G maneuver. It launched itself off the front of the fuselage unplugging itself from the ESC and fluttering to the ground somewhere in the field. I was able to manage the serious CG shift and brought the glider safely down without incident. I printed a new firewall that flares out inside the fuselage preventing it from ever coming lose again aside a major crash.

With this setup I get about 4 full power launches and a minimum 5 minute per glide per launch for a total flight time of 24minutes average. With thermals this stretches out even longer; .... fun.
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Old Jan 07, 2015, 06:06 PM
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I found on my DLG gliders that with 4 servo's the Rx burns only about 150mA in one hour of flying/throwing.
So, even if you fly your main battery into the "puffing" stage, there should be ample amps left to drive the Rx.
If, on top of that, you set your ESC to cut-off at a safe level, you should never have a problem.
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