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Old Oct 23, 2011, 03:24 PM
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Need help!!!!!

I'm just getting into aerial R/C and have bought a SkyFun ARF pusher jet from Hobby King. It came in the mail and I assembled it and such, then I had it set up by my LHS because I've never set up a RX for a plane before. The guy did well, but I didn't know which way to push the sticks on the radio, so I pushed the right stick up, thinking that the plane would go up, and it went down, so I changed the servos so that when I move the stick up the elevators in the back go up (or whatever those parts are called).

The parts move up, but with the plane at full throttle it won't lift off. It is thrown, then coasts straight with me slamming the stick upwards, nothing happens. Still seems to just nose-dive again and again.

I'm getting frustrated because it doesn't makes sense. When those elevators in the back move up, the plane moves up, right? Or am I wrong? The plane can't go upwards, it can only go straight forward and down.

NEED HELP!



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Old Oct 23, 2011, 04:26 PM
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Well, if you don't know which way is supposed to be up on the controls, then you have no experience at all. What that means is that you have about zero chance of learning to fly on that airplane.

"Down" on the right stick is supposed to be "UP" on the airplane, Think of it as "pulling the nose up" or "pushing the nose down" with the right stick.

If you you really want to get into the hobby and be successful, set your jet aside for a while and get a Hobby Zone Champ to learn the basics on.

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Old Oct 23, 2011, 04:35 PM
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Well, if you don't know which way is supposed to be up on the controls, then you have no experience at all. What that means is that you have about zero chance of learning to fly on that airplane.

"Down" on the right stick is supposed to be "UP" on the airplane, Think of it as "pulling the nose up" or "pushing the nose down" with the right stick.

If you you really want to get into the hobby and be successful, set your jet aside for a while and get a Hobby Zone Champ to learn the basics on.

Wolfe
LOL! Well, I always set up my simulator to have the stick move up to make the plane move up and I learned that way... so.. yeah... lol

I switched around the servos so that my way of controlling should work - but it doesn't lift the plane's nose high enough, that's my question.
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Old Oct 23, 2011, 05:20 PM
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Four words: "join club, find instructor"..

Also, spend some time in the BEGINNER forum: http://www.rcgroups.com/beginner-tra...aft-electric-8
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Old Oct 23, 2011, 05:22 PM
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Four words: "join club, find instructor"..
Who can fly with the controls reversed.
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Old Oct 23, 2011, 05:35 PM
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Four words: "join club, find instructor"..

Also, spend some time in the BEGINNER forum: http://www.rcgroups.com/beginner-tra...aft-electric-8
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I didn't even know there was a beginner forum... lol there's so many forums on here, still adjusting to all of it!

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Who can fly with the controls reversed.
Yeah... I guess I'll have to learn the right way... groan... I dunno, it makes more sense if you move the stick up that the plane goes up to me...
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Old Oct 23, 2011, 05:47 PM
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It's all a matter of orientation. I hold my transmitter horizontal, or at least nearly horizontal. Therefore I view it as moving the elevator control forward and rearward just as in the full size airplane. Pushing the stick forward makes the airplane dive and pulling the stick back makes the airplane climb.

Just a note: holding the transmitter in a horizontal orientation puts its antenna in the same plane as the airplane's antenna. That is as it should be for maximum signal coupling.

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Old Oct 23, 2011, 10:02 PM
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I didn't even know there was a beginner forum... lol there's so many forums on here, still adjusting to all of it!



Yeah... I guess I'll have to learn the right way... groan... I dunno, it makes more sense if you move the stick up that the plane goes up to me...
Play a lot of video games, I'll bet?


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Old Oct 24, 2011, 07:26 AM
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Play a lot of video games, I'll bet?


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I do not own a single gaming system.

(Other than my simulator)

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Old Oct 24, 2011, 10:19 PM
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I do not own a single gaming system.

(Other than my simulator)

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Interesting, many video gamers use the "push to look up" method on the sticks. Makes it hard to teach them how to use the elevator on RC planes.

Good luck.


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Old Oct 25, 2011, 09:16 PM
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Interesting, many video gamers use the "push to look up" method on the sticks. Makes it hard to teach them how to use the elevator on RC planes.

Good luck.


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Thanks! I may not be staying with aerial R/C for long, probably going to get back into trucks. If I stay with the air, I'll get a cheap HK trainer and learn MY way of flying..
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 10:16 PM
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You have been given good advice. If you stay with RC flying and a friend lets you fly their airplane will you remember that the elevator is reversed on everyone else's setup or will you crash their plane? Perhaps stubbornness isn't the better part of valor here.

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Old Oct 25, 2011, 10:47 PM
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Like everyone here on forum,I recommend going to club field or ask for help from an experienced flier. I'm sure one of the guys has a cheap trainer rather than buying, shipping and waiting???????......HK, if you have a problem with purchase it's iffy also. The local guys will help you, stress free and save you some money and grief when you dork one in. You can also ask LHS if they have any used champs or similar trainers. I hear ya when you say truck guy cause theirs racers and fliers....rare, do I see both on a regular use. Plane guys fly plane's and some can fly heli's too, but usually stick to one mostly. Enjoy the humor as my stubborn attitude got me a few times......I'm not the only
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 11:01 PM
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Thanks! I may not be staying with aerial R/C for long, probably going to get back into trucks. If I stay with the air, I'll get a cheap HK trainer and learn MY way of flying..
If you are going to learn "your way" why are you here asking questions? Listen to the advice of the people here who have taking the time to help you. There advice will save you a tremendous amount of frustration. By taking time out of their day to offer help and not taking it wastes their time and yours if you refuse to use it. Remember the pilots here have years of combine experience which can save money and help make the hobby very rewarding.

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Old Oct 26, 2011, 07:33 AM
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If you are going to learn "your way" why are you here asking questions? Listen to the advice of the people here who have taking the time to help you. There advice will save you a tremendous amount of frustration. By taking time out of their day to offer help and not taking it wastes their time and yours if you refuse to use it. Remember the pilots here have years of combine experience which can save money and help make the hobby very rewarding.

Jim
The conversation got off-topic and I'm not refusing any advice, I just do what makes more sense to me. My original Q was about getting it in the air, not about my backwards controls.
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