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Old Jun 14, 2015, 05:37 AM
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DLG - first serious buy

HI all,

I'm ready to step into the 1.5 m class Dogs, and I need suggestions on which model to buy.
I do have a few requirements:

1. The wing needs to be a single piece.
2. Easiest possible build. I have no space nor the equipment to build a model.
3. No fishing line linkages for the servos.
4. No Epo.
4. Budget around $400

I am no expert in DLG but I have flown them and launched them for some time now.

Thanks guys for the help.
E.
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Old Jun 14, 2015, 05:45 AM
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Blaster 2
Thowt dlg
Topsky 2 or 3

Good starter models, blaster easiest to build but wing is hollow so be careful.
Thowt comes with wing already joined together , uses pull string system but you could change that if you wanted, all will need some level of building so look into each one for instructions to see if you can manage.
Look out for a second hand dlg that is already built is another option.
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Old Jun 14, 2015, 06:38 AM
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Buy something used and ready to fly. That way all you will need is enough table space to put in your receiver and set up your program. Save building for later.
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Old Jun 14, 2015, 07:29 AM
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Buy something used and ready to fly. That way all you will need is enough table space to put in your receiver and set up your program. Save building for later.
Excellent advise - if you don't mind someones else's build and repairs.

But if you want to build new....the Predator 2.5 is a cost effective, excellent performing, easy to fly ship. I used one to learn with, I still use it! outstanding for the price point. CJ Hung, the designer/proprietor is wonderful to deal with....thumbs-up, way up.

http://www.hjz-model-eshop.idv.tw/en/index.php?cPath=21

P.S. FYI, a single piece wing is expensive to ship and damage prone during shipment. The Predator 2.5 has an optional build jig for joining the wing panels....accurate and easy.
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Old Jun 14, 2015, 08:13 AM
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Check out Sebas Zen. One piece 1.5m wing, one piece pod/boom, beautiful workmanship, stiff, tough, light (typical auw is 235g) and usually available. An awesome value near your budget. I personally own two and it's been a great plane.
Good luck. Mike
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Old Jun 14, 2015, 08:21 AM
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Don't rule out fishing line.
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Old Jun 14, 2015, 10:25 AM
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Zen looks interesting, where can I buy it for shipping to UK?

And fishing line is good, I used it on my last 2 dlgs with no problems, cheap and light and easy to fit.
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Old Jun 14, 2015, 10:41 AM
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Don't rule out fishing line.
I did fast because the heat in the desert or my hot car left in the parking lot caused the fishing lines to stretch enough to have to adjust my surfaces very often or re-do the adjustment at the servoarm-line clamp. When I went to the beadalon wires I did not have to adjust them at all. This was like having to cover older open-bay models with monokote rather than the often shipped ultracoat type covering because I spent more time re-shrinking the covering that flying.

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Old Jun 14, 2015, 12:24 PM
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Nigel, theres an extensive thread in the hand launch forum called Sebas Zen has landed. PM seba and he ships direct from Poland. Great guy n a fantastic plane. Good luck.

Thermalin. I think you may be confusing old school plastic line with the new spectra style compounds. Its a whole new world and youd destroy a plane in a hot car before this new stuff would stretch. But beadalon would also work in a Zen so whatever floats your plane.
good luck in your quest. Mike
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No, I did not confuse anything. I tired those recommended and even pre-stretched the line before using them with 20# plus weights. In the heat of the northern Nevada desert the insides of cars gets VERY hot, so much so that I have used it as a hot box for some epoxy cures when I wanted to speed things up. Most polymers will soften and expand in the hea t and wit the constant tension of a spring remain stretched. I just can't tolerate having to re-do adjustments all the time, especially in my climate that's not like Florida. So to each their own. for me the beadalon dos the rick, as does very thin guitar or music wire.

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Old Jun 14, 2015, 11:17 PM
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No one uses monofilament line for the tail. Kevlar or Denema string is used and there is almost no thermal problems with them.
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4. Budget around $400
Is this airframe only or ready to fly?


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400$ and wing prejoined.
1.5 m.
Withstand a closed car in Sun in Nevada @,160 degrees. Hmmmm. No wonder you had to retrim things. Roland Sr told me to cook my warped CX1 aileron at 120 for an hour, cool and it worked.
Utah has got hot summer sun. You can't imagine how I strive to park in shade and or leave Windows down in summer.
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Thank you guys, you rock!

Appreciate the discussion and the suggestions!

mmatock...ready to fly is a bit heard at that price point I guess, but if it can be achieved that's great!
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mmatock...ready to fly is a bit heard at that price point I guess, but if it can be achieved that's great!
Yes it is, that's why I asked. Decent servos will run $80++ for a set and then there is radio gear and battery if you don't have spares on hand.


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