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Old Apr 30, 2013, 02:31 PM
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P-38 Roll Call

I love warbirds. Have a bunch of them, some on the rack, some in boxes on the shelf, some on the bench, some on the floor. I have models of most of the major warbirds, but there's a hole in the fleet.

P-38. Don't have one. Yet. Have been reading and drooling forever, figured I'd throw up a thread doing compare and contrast on the various birds out there, I know a little bit about some of them but not enough. I'd love to gather as much info about the strengths and weaknesses in one place (scale detail, retract strength, build quality, adequacy of power and electronics) to have a resource to help me and others figure which ones to aim for.

Flyzone Micro - 21" wingspan, small fixed gear. Won't be avail from Tower until June.

GWS 47.2" ws from BP Hobbies or Caliber Hobbies. Pricy for what they are (EPS unless they've updated).

Art tech 800mm ws, from nitroplanes $149 for RTF
Art tech 1200mm , from nitroplanes $229 for RTF
Very little thread activity and review on these birds that I've been able to find on RCG, Art tech's reputation as far as quality is mixed. They used to have a small brushed version called the Tangerine which you could find other places.

Skyangel just released a small (1000mm ) P-38, available as PNP from Hobbyb for $154.50. Some early reviews on it on the main skyangel thread but minimal data, there were fears it might not get released at all.

FMS P-38, V2 has just become available I believe, primarily available from MotionRC ($289.99 PNP) and Banana (289.99 ARF) in the US. 55" wingspan, retracts, non-detachable wing. BH is sold out (shocker)

Airwing is Nitro's house brand I believe, I don't know what the underlying manufacturer is, but they offer a 1600mm (63") P-38 for $339 for a PNP level plane. Quality is a concern, the only review I found on RCG was someone who found so many issues he returned it to NP. To their credit they gave him a refund, which should be recognized.

The J-power P-38 came in a V1 and V2, was sold by HK, BH and other places, including killerplanes.com and toysonics, all of which appear to be out of stock and discontinued. Rumor is that the X-UAV version is the same plane but I have no confirmation. Have seen it listed at 55.1" and 58" wingspan. Well regarded as V2 from what I read, very flimsy retracts, good belly lander.

Richmodel makes a 51.5" P-38 as an ARF, available from General Hobby. Balsa bird with fixed gear, know very little about it.

The Eflite P-38 is cherished by the pilots who own it, it's discontinued and fragile and requires a number of strengthening mods right out of the box but owners love it.

EMI, Raidentech and Phase 3 have previously had or sold P-38s but other than threads here I have almost no information on them.

Great Planes used to sell a profile P-38 that was apparently pretty nice.

I've considered buying Jim Ryan's P-38 plans and converting them to foam build at times.

Going huge, Yellow Aircraft makes a beautiful giant scale P-38, there are others but well beyond my budget or abilities thus far.

Additional data, planes I forgot about? I've heard rumor of another major manufacturers bringing a P-38 to market soon but just a rumor.

I always debate about jumping on a P-38 that's scarce, like a J-Power, or wait for something better to come along, not knowing when that will be.

Anyone got additional data points or pros and cons analysis of the Lightning choices?
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Old Apr 30, 2013, 11:47 PM
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I love warbirds. Have a bunch of them, some on the rack, some in boxes on the shelf, some on the bench, some on the floor. I have models of most of the major warbirds, but there's a hole in the fleet.

P-38. Don't have one. Yet. Have been reading and drooling forever, figured I'd throw up a thread doing compare and contrast on the various birds out there, I know a little bit about some of them but not enough. I'd love to gather as much info about the strengths and weaknesses in one place (scale detail, retract strength, build quality, adequacy of power and electronics) to have a resource to help me and others figure which ones to aim for.

Flyzone Micro - 21" wingspan, small fixed gear. Won't be avail from Tower until June.

GWS 47.2" ws from BP Hobbies or Caliber Hobbies. Pricy for what they are (EPS unless they've updated).

Art tech 800mm ws, from nitroplanes $149 for RTF
Art tech 1200mm , from nitroplanes $229 for RTF
Very little thread activity and review on these birds that I've been able to find on RCG, Art tech's reputation as far as quality is mixed. They used to have a small brushed version called the Tangerine which you could find other places.

Skyangel just released a small (1000mm ) P-38, available as PNP from Hobbyb for $154.50. Some early reviews on it on the main skyangel thread but minimal data, there were fears it might not get released at all.

FMS P-38, V2 has just become available I believe, primarily available from MotionRC ($289.99 PNP) and Banana (289.99 ARF) in the US. 55" wingspan, retracts, non-detachable wing. BH is sold out (shocker)

Airwing is Nitro's house brand I believe, I don't know what the underlying manufacturer is, but they offer a 1600mm (63") P-38 for $339 for a PNP level plane. Quality is a concern, the only review I found on RCG was someone who found so many issues he returned it to NP. To their credit they gave him a refund, which should be recognized.

The J-power P-38 came in a V1 and V2, was sold by HK, BH and other places, including killerplanes.com and toysonics, all of which appear to be out of stock and discontinued. Rumor is that the X-UAV version is the same plane but I have no confirmation. Have seen it listed at 55.1" and 58" wingspan. Well regarded as V2 from what I read, very flimsy retracts, good belly lander.

Richmodel makes a 51.5" P-38 as an ARF, available from General Hobby. Balsa bird with fixed gear, know very little about it.

The Eflite P-38 is cherished by the pilots who own it, it's discontinued and fragile and requires a number of strengthening mods right out of the box but owners love it.

EMI, Raidentech and Phase 3 have previously had or sold P-38s but other than threads here I have almost no information on them.

Great Planes used to sell a profile P-38 that was apparently pretty nice.

I've considered buying Jim Ryan's P-38 plans and converting them to foam build at times.

Going huge, Yellow Aircraft makes a beautiful giant scale P-38, there are others but well beyond my budget or abilities thus far.

Additional data, planes I forgot about? I've heard rumor of another major manufacturers bringing a P-38 to market soon but just a rumor.

I always debate about jumping on a P-38 that's scarce, like a J-Power, or wait for something better to come along, not knowing when that will be.

Anyone got additional data points or pros and cons analysis of the Lightning choices?
Boy do I feel your pain! I thought our prayers were answered when FMS came out with their 1400mm version.But there are a few issues.And quite frankly,I have been put off by the non scale dinky wheels.What is the deal! Almost all the warbirds produced in this size category,have small,non scale wheels,while the 1700mm ones come much closer to the real thing.I DON'T GET IT!! Take the FMS B-25.Great looking airframe!BUT...ridiculous landing gear and doors!I would have purchased one,but the thought of having to redesign and build a sale landing gear has kept me from buying it.This is a major issue for me.Now to the P-38.I do also like the Art Tech 1200mm version.I would have bought one,even with the limited feedback,but I see Nitro is out of stock.They almost had me with the Airwing one,but quality issues and price, prevent me from that one.I do have two EMI/Phase 3 P-38's.I fly them without gear,but in the air wow,do they look the part! The only negatives,would be availability,and the foam is rather prone to hangar rash.For now,it's the best for me though.I hear FMS will be doing a new version of their P-38.I am waiting on that.If they get the landing gear more scale,I will buy more than one for sure!
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Old May 01, 2013, 12:13 PM
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General Hobbies has the 1400mm p38 from xuav in stock $149 for pnp. I just ordered one so I'll know in a couple days.

FWIW check out the photos from banana hobbies jpower model
http://www.bananahobby.com/6-ch-j-po...8879#navImages

And the Xuav site
http://www.x-uav.cn/product_view.asp?id=14

The shot are identical except for the logo. Not same model- same photo. Crops look the same so nobody cut off the old logo. So they have the same photo source at least.

Here's the most detailed breakdown of the xuav kit I could find
http://www.rcskyliner.com/plane_motor_P38.html
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Old May 01, 2013, 12:58 PM
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I started this "roll call" thread a couple years ago...I covered a couple of options that you didn't list but it's also outdated...

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...highlight=p+38
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Old May 01, 2013, 02:00 PM
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Yeah I recalled seeing something like your thread previously but couldn't find it when I went looking, and the landscape has changed a bit.

Best listing I've ever found for P-38 manufacturers is here though it's not as up to date.
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Old May 02, 2013, 05:28 PM
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General Hobbies has the 1400mm p38 from xuav in stock $149 for pnp. I just ordered one so I'll know in a couple days.

FWIW check out the photos from banana hobbies jpower model
http://www.bananahobby.com/6-ch-j-po...8879#navImages

And the Xuav site
http://www.x-uav.cn/product_view.asp?id=14

The shot are identical except for the logo. Not same model- same photo. Crops look the same so nobody cut off the old logo. So they have the same photo source at least.

Here's the most detailed breakdown of the xuav kit I could find
http://www.rcskyliner.com/plane_motor_P38.html
Interesting. I was not aware of the x-uav P-38 til I saw your post.

Why is it only an inch or two smaller than the BH one, yet it's 22 ozs lighter? Apparently they are both made of EPO foam, and same size power system so not sure why the massive difference in weight.

From the looks of the footage, the x-uav model does fly nice and slow like it really is 28 ozs. I wonder why they're not very popular in this forum.
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Old Oct 20, 2013, 08:49 AM
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Well, I am not much of a scale collector. I am not really into war birds either....

I bought this as a sport Twin... One that isn't made of fluff. I like Foam, for beaters.

Nothing quite like Balsa

I really wanted an OV-10 ... and I looked at a bunch of Cessna Twins... I really like the Wild Deuces 25e. All of the planes I looked at were either foam PNF, Too expensive, too big or just unavailable.

This 52" Balsa twin is exactly what I want, and at $69 + $40 Shipping... I'm in.
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Old Oct 21, 2013, 10:16 AM
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Here is one sitting in my bay window at the moment before being hung up for the winter months. It's nitro but it's a P-38 Lightning and we all like to look at them. It is from Col. Art Johnson plans and is modeled after Maj. Thomas B. McGuire's Pudgy V. It sports twin .61 HB engines along with full retracts, flaps, drop tanks, etc. It has been flying every year since the early 80's. Another is currently being built in the shop and is tentatively going to be named "JEWBOY".

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Old Oct 21, 2013, 11:46 AM
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The P-38 is my absolute favorite WWII warbird. Been looking at all of them for some time. I was going to get the FMS 1450mm from Nitro, but they are now out of stock on both paint schemes. Maybe (hopefully) there is an updated version of it on the way.

That Sky Angel 1000mm Lightning would be perfect for my hangar, but it's out of stock as well. Sure hope we see some more of the Forked Tail Devil coming out soon...
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Old Oct 21, 2013, 12:30 PM
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Thanks, now you've got me wanting a p-38 (and the boss will probably kill me since I just got a mustang and have no idea where I'll store everything).
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Old Oct 21, 2013, 01:16 PM
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You forgot this one:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332047
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SkyAngel 1000mm P-38: http://www.hobbyb.com/skyangel-mini-...pnp-p-440.html
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 03:00 PM
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I have a big KMP P38. She about 10 years old, and I am the only one to finish her and fly it twice. She's currently in the Mx hangar receiving a YIPIEE paint job
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 03:47 PM
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Man, I wish I could get my hands on one of these! Perfect size, and 6-channel. Too bad they are sold out...
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I've had a Ryan P-38 for many years now - it was built from one of Jim's original kits and powered with Speed 400 motors and 16 Nicad cells. I upgraded it to brushless and Lipo about 8 years ago and have to say that it's one of my all-time favourite flying models. A couple of weeks ago, I launched it with a bad battery pack and, unknown to me, one of the motors cut on initial climbout. I did kinda wonder why it lacked its usual power, but I managed two whole circuits on one motor before I felt I ought to land it. Build one, you won't regret it!
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