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Old May 02, 2011, 08:48 AM
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I feel great for the relatives of 9--11....But for the world NOTHING has changed.

His replacement is possibly FAR worse. A safety engineer from a nuclear reactor company.

At least Osama Binladen NEVER did a FUKUSHIMA or CHERNOYBAL to the world.

Glad he is gone...............But we will see if the replacement is a anti - nukie also.
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Old May 02, 2011, 09:21 AM
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agree ... 100%
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Old May 02, 2011, 09:27 AM
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It's kind of a catch 22, isn't it? We can't hardly let a bad guy get away with doing bad things because his replacement might be worse, can we? We just have to take them on as they come, don't we? Otherwise, we end up caving into terrorism and that's as slippery a slope as they get.
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Old May 02, 2011, 09:39 AM
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It's kind of a catch 22, isn't it? We can't hardly let a bad guy get away with doing bad things because his replacement might be worse, can we? We just have to take them on as they come, don't we? Otherwise, we end up caving into terrorism and that's as slippery a slope as they get.
Exactly. As with other discussions here, this has a similar actual answer. Those who detest us will still detest us. If we sit around worried about how some of them will react to what WE do, they have won.
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Old May 02, 2011, 10:04 AM
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Exactly. As with other discussions here, this has a similar actual answer. Those who detest us will still detest us. If we sit around worried about how some of them will react to what WE do, they have won.
When what WE do is arbitrary and essentially meaningless other than to provoke anger among murderous nut jobs, then concerning ourselves with how they react has some merit. It's like I said in that discussion, we need to use our heads. When things count we will do whatever is necessary. When they don't mean much, don't do something stupid "just because you can".... and if you do, do something stupid "just because you can", expect the rest of us to give hell about it, "just because we can".
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Old May 02, 2011, 10:06 AM
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Amongst all the hooting and hollering, backslapping and cheering, it might just be worth taking a step back and working out how we got into this mess to begin with!

So we've scratched an itch and everything is good with the world - well no not really!

We really do need a reappraisal of foreign policy at least!
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Old May 02, 2011, 10:09 AM
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Amongst all the hooting and hollering, backslapping and cheering, it might just be worth taking a step back and working out how we got into this mess to begin with!

So we've scratched an itch and everything is good with the world - well no not really!

We really do need a reappraisal of foreign policy at least!
Whatta buncha ..............
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Old May 02, 2011, 10:10 AM
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Whatta buncha ..............
Ah - you don't think we did anything at all to tick someone off somewhere

I'm sure we did
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Old May 02, 2011, 10:13 AM
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Amongst all the hooting and hollering, backslapping and cheering, it might just be worth taking a step back and working out how we got into this mess to begin with!

So we've scratched an itch and everything is good with the world - well no not really!

We really do need a reappraisal of foreign policy at least!
Policy with terrorists... How does that work. You do whatever they say or they will kill you.
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When what WE do is arbitrary and essentially meaningless other than to provoke anger among murderous nut jobs, then concerning ourselves with how they react has some merit. It's like I said in that discussion, we need to use our heads. When things count we will do whatever is necessary. When they don't mean much, don't do something stupid "just because you can".... and if you do, do something stupid "just because you can", expect the rest of us to give hell about it, "just because we can".
Strongly concur.
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Policy with terrorists... How does that work. You do whatever they say or they will kill you.
Psssssssssst


Folks aren't BORN terrorists
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Old May 02, 2011, 10:15 AM
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Psssssssssst


Folks aren't BORN terrorists
Psssst... Folks are raised as terrorists, particularly the ones that have it codified in their religion.
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Old May 02, 2011, 10:18 AM
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Psssst... Folks are raised as terrorists, particularly the ones that have it codified in their religion.
Oh sure - it's in their genes


WHEN did they become terrorists - and why
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Old May 02, 2011, 10:32 AM
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Oh sure - it's in their genes


WHEN did they become terrorists - and why
When do murderers become murderers and why? Is it in their genes?

For some terrorists, it starts when their parents teach them to hate those not like themselves. Then when they get older they make choices of their own. Others, when they have become hopeless individuals and willing to turn to anybody that will accept them and they turn to terrorist organizations.

Of course, there are all sorts of reasons and some of them could be attributable to our foreign policy but we don't make policy with terrorists. We make policy with the leadership of other countries. If the terrorists don't like the policies their governments have negotiated then they need to get rid of their own leaders first. If they like the policies and they are detrimental to our interests well that's life. We'll do what we need to do just as they will.
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Old May 02, 2011, 10:38 AM
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Oh sure - it's in their genes


WHEN did they become terrorists - and why
"Raised as" does not mean "it's in their genes." I think you are conflating "nature vs nurture."
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