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Old Jan 14, 2013, 09:14 PM
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If Hitec is releasing a new radio and receivers will they still sell their current receivers? I hope so as I do not want to buy another radio right now.
The answer is Yes. The new radio is backward compatible with all of the current receivers. The new RX will have a faster chip, but is mostly geared towards Heli flyers and people that really need fast response. I was told you would need a scope to see the speed difference.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 03:08 AM
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RXs that don't need the stupid sensor station for telemetry would be very much welcome.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 06:00 AM
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Well my speculation about a new A9 would be.

-It will look similar to the Eclipse 7 Pro with the screen at the top.
-It will be based on exactly the same touch screen and logic as the present A9
-It will have some added mixes as standard which were missing from the A9 Menu.
-It will have lower latency.
-A new built in Tx module to look cleaner with less wires hanging out. (edited to keep Si happy)
-It may have sliders on the side and possibly extra ones on the back same as the Eclipse 7 Pro
-The voice unit will be built into the transmitter.
-It Will come with Li-po battery as standard.

-New receivers which will take satellites, (large scale and heli guys have been on about this since forever.
-Possibly a "super receiver" which has the telemetry hub built in.

And the new radio will be imaginably named the Aurora 9S................

Well that's my thoughts.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 06:16 AM
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-It will have lower latency with the new built in Tx module.
A built in module doesn't lower latency - even though that'll be the excuse. A connector doesn't slow down data transfer that much.

If they want to lower latency, they'll have to change the protocol. Currently the servos are updated at a rate of around ~20ms (iirc from the top of my head) in the data transmissions. So thus the new receivers will need a special mode to switch into. However this could be automated if its a telemetry receiver, as it could request the transmission module to move into a faster packet send rate.

Hopefully they'll update the previous module/transmitter versions to support it!

Si.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 06:30 AM
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i hope they at least do something with a SD card so we dont have to screw with the stupid programmer box
That's my thoughts too, that USB box is so old school. An SD card would allow any computer type Mac or Linux to easily upgrade their A9.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 07:23 AM
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A built in module doesn't lower latency - even though that'll be the excuse. A connector doesn't slow down data transfer that much.
If they want to lower latency, they'll have to change the protocol. Currently the servos are updated at a rate of around ~20ms (iirc from the top of my head) in the data transmissions. So thus the new receivers will need a special mode to switch into. However this could be automated if its a telemetry receiver, as it could request the transmission module to move into a faster packet send rate.
Hopefully they'll update the previous module/transmitter versions to support it!
Si.
Sorry I did not mean to imply that an inbuilt module would be needed for improved latency, only that that would be the outcome of the transmitter design changes.
I think the old modules will NOT be up datable to the new protocols, because that would sabotage their new product. Why upgrade to a new TX if the old one could be updated. Does not make commercial sense, anyway the old hardware may not be compatible with the protocol changes. For faster data they will need wider bandwidth, similar to DSMX.

Personally I don't think Latency is a problem, its only the "must have's" who want it, so I think this new Tx will be at least 50% higher in price, as will be the matching receivers.

I just hope the old A9 does not get let to wither and die, as its still far from a finished project.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 07:28 AM
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That's my thoughts too, that USB box is so old school. An SD card would allow any computer type Mac or Linux to easily upgrade their A9.
SD cards are so last decade. ....

Seriously, how are you going to reprogram the receivers, telemetry station, as well as possible new mA sensors with an SD card. The USB box is the only sensible system.

You cant put a card reader in every module and receiver.......
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 07:29 AM
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Sorry I did not mean to imply that an inbuilt module would be needed for improved latency, only that that would be the outcome of the transmitter design changes.
I think the old modules will NOT be up datable to the new protocols, because that would sabotage their new product. Why upgrade to a new TX if the old one could be updated. Does not make commercial sense, anyway the old hardware may not be compatible with the protocol changes. For faster data they will need wider bandwidth, similar to DSMX.

Personally I don't think Latency is a problem, its only the "must have's" who want it, so I think this new Tx will be at least 50% higher in price, as will be the matching receivers.

I just hope the old A9 does not get let to wither and die as its still far from a finished project.
Backward compatability is one of the values that keeps Spektrum the #1 brand in 2.4 GHz. Hitec would be foolish to break compatability.

Futaba upgraded the 8FG to 14 channels via SW which I believe enhanced the loyalty of Futaba's customers. Sure impressed me.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 07:38 AM
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Backward compatability is one of the values that keeps Spektrum the #1 brand in 2.4 GHz. Hitec would be foolish to break compatability.

Futaba upgraded the 8FG to 14 channels via SW which I believe enhanced the loyalty of Futaba's customers. Sure impressed me.
The old model A9 would be backward compatible, it already is......

I would assume the new model would be backward and forward compatible, but I seriously doubt that the old A9 will be forward compatible. What would be the motivation for the old customer base to buy a new transmitter....
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 08:45 AM
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They also said the transmitter will be slightly lighter and thinner.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 08:47 AM
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They also said the transmitter will be slightly lighter and thinner.
as long as they keep the rubber grips no complaints here, i really think the 8fg feels better in my hands but the aurora9 rubber grips make it much better. Also keeps me from chucking my radio when i am flying my DLG
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 09:51 AM
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Backward compatability is one of the values that keeps Spektrum the #1 brand in 2.4 GHz. Hitec would be foolish to break compatability.

Futaba upgraded the 8FG to 14 channels via SW which I believe enhanced the loyalty of Futaba's customers. Sure impressed me.
I agree with you, however, it is interesting that when JR introduced it's new XG line of radios, with DMSS, they did not offer Backward Compatibility with DXMS/DSM2.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 09:55 AM
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I agree with you, however, it is interesting that when JR introduced it's new XG line of radios, with DMSS, they did not offer Backward Compatibility with DXMS/DSM2.
it was simply due to them not having to pay for spektrum royalties anymore by going with their own protocol
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 09:57 AM
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it was simply due to them not having to pay for spektrum royalties anymore by going with their own protocol
I thought it might be something like that.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 10:32 AM
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i hope they at least do something with a SD card so we dont have to screw with the stupid programmer box
A USB port would be a lot better than both of those options.
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