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Old Jul 13, 2014, 12:00 AM
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First aileron plane

Well Im going OK with my Lazy Bee, lots of good flights and think it may be time to build an aileron equipped park flyer
Something that flys slowly is a big plus (for landing) but if it can go fast too it would be neat!

Ideas of planes you have built and liked would be appreciated!

edit I have lots of 9g servos, a 2100kv motor off a blu dart (19g 1806N 2100kV) and several 2s and 3s 1000mAh batteries so a plane that can use them would be neat)
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 12:35 AM
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Well Im going OK with my Lazy Bee, lots of good flights and think it may be time to build an aileron equipped park flyer
Something that flys slowly is a big plus (for landing) but if it can go fast too it would be neat!

Ideas of planes you have built and liked would be appreciated!

edit I have lots of 9g servos, a 2100kv motor off a blu dart (19g 1806N 2100kV) and several 2s and 3s 1000mAh batteries so a plane that can use them would be neat)
How goes the EzFly building with the kids at school ?

A very easy to make plane for learning ailerons ( elevons ) is a simple delta . Landing them isn't difficult - just a little flare at the end and it just sets down on the grass . And they are EXTREMELY fun to fly , on high rates you can do very quick rolls and loops . You can make them with elevons if your radio can do the mixing . Or you can make them with ailerons on the left and right , with elevator in the middle .
Here is my version of a simple delta .

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2145562

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Old Jul 13, 2014, 12:54 AM
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Hi Al
We are on school holidays, so no building for 2 weeks
the last week of term was interuppted so we have wings cut out and fuselage marked out

slowly slowly

thanks for the delta plan
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 03:00 AM
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any other suggestions?
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 03:40 AM
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Though the delta is the best mix of the things you're looking for, I always enjoy different planes for a different flight experience.
A twin boom pusher like the image below is a pleasure to fly slow and will fly fairly fast with a decent motor/prop combo. I like the twin boom pusher layout because the airframe is almost plug-and-play: Demolished the fuselage in a crash? - No problem - hang a new one under the wing. Tail not long enough (too twitchy in pitch) or too long (not aerobatic enough)? No problem, cut different size booms.
The motor/prop is protected in a crash too.
Then, when you're ready for a challenge you can try a canard layout similar to the one below. I and others discuss the list of considerations that canard planes involve, in other posts. Though they are quirky in some respects, there's nothing quite like getting them to finally fly right.
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 04:28 AM
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Hi Nuteman
Thats a good looking plane, but looks like a lot of work to build
I have marked out one of Al's deltas on depron,
Missus has work tomorrow evening so will jam it together tomorrow evening
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 05:11 AM
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Yeah, you can't go wrong with a simple delta.
The one I did below is slightly more complex, but does awesome high alpha with that nose mounted fixed canard
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 07:13 AM
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If you don't have time to build, the Delta Ray from Horizon Hobbies is a great flying trainer plane with built in stability. I bought one after helping a fellow flier learn to fly that had one for this purpose. Great all around durable, fun plane.

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Old Jul 13, 2014, 08:14 AM
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Why not just build an aileron wing for your Lazy Bee ?

At least you know the model, and once a little experience is gained, then build something more aerobatic.
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 10:57 AM
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Hi Nuteman
Thats a good looking plane, but looks like a lot of work to build
I have marked out one of Al's deltas on depron,
Missus has work tomorrow evening so will jam it together tomorrow evening
We'd love to see photos and a video if possible !

Al
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 11:08 AM
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Another suggestion - the Wot Next:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1525812
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 12:46 PM
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What Ray said. I flew my 42" BluBaby with undercamber wing while learning then built a KFM3 aileron wing for it. Doing a different wing for a fuse you have already is a great way to advance in skills. The Bee doesn't look to be set up for ailerons with it's polyhedral wing, but a straight aileron build should be easy. You may be the first to do it!
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 04:57 PM
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I never thought of that.
I have the delta cut and stuck I might get the electrics in today and test flight tomorrow morning (or thurs)

I have some EPP at work I might make a KFM2 or KFM3 wing for the lazybee another day
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 05:11 PM
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Al's delta being built
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Old Jul 13, 2014, 07:07 PM
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Al's delta being built
Nice !
Another plane you can put ailerons on is the EzFly . Just make the wing straight and add ailerons . Because of the prop slot on the wing , you have to use two separate servos - one for each aileron - and connect them to the aileron channel with a " Y " harness . Here's mine

4 channel EZfly Sport (3 min 15 sec)
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