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Old Nov 20, 2010, 07:10 PM
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UNKNOWN 6m

I could use some help identifying this sailplane and also some set-up tips.
I acquired it locally after it was damaged. The previous owner had cut off the nose and powered it with an electric motor. The fuse and wings were damaged after a crash landing-I think more of a crash and less of a landing. I've done all the repairs except some painting which will be later and making a canopy-the foam block will do for know. I rebuilt the nose for aerotow. I think I have it close to flyable and would like to get it finished and in the air. So here is what I need help with:
-Can anyone identify this model? There are no markings inside or out. To me it kinda looks like a Discus.
-How about a CG location. The airfoil is in the HQ family-undercambered in the rear. I roughly balanced it at the wing thru-rod. The weight right now is 23 lbs. which is comparable to some current 6M's
-Control throws- There are 2 flaps on the inboard wing, ailerons on the outer panel, rudder and elevator. How about an estimate on control throws? I got the other stuff figured out OK-retract gear, spoiler and tow release.
Thanks in advance for any advice-Bill
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Old Nov 20, 2010, 07:17 PM
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Nice job on the rebuild. Definitely not a Discus, but a dead ringer for Ventus 2 or 2cx.
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Old Nov 20, 2010, 07:18 PM
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Hi Bill - I think it's a Ventus 2c, probably by HF model although there's a few manufacturers make them this size. It's really nice looking.

Hopefully some of the 1/3 scale Ventus owners will step in here and offer you some settings.

Good luck with the first flight.

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Old Nov 20, 2010, 09:25 PM
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I reckon Ventus 2cx

http://www.faltusmodel.com/en16.htm
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Old Nov 20, 2010, 09:55 PM
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Its a ventus 2cx-the polyhedral wings- outer tip panels.Big,thats for sure,icarerc would have similar size models on their website,under sailplanes>4M.regards damo
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Old Nov 20, 2010, 10:31 PM
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Hi Bill
Can you send a picture of the wing spar? That may help determine the origin. Is it a built in spar or a rod?

Also, if possible. take a picture of the retract unit, that also helps, along with where the elevator servo is and how it connects. All these things will give clues.

Congratulations on the repair, looks good. the weight should not be much of an issue.

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Old Nov 20, 2010, 11:06 PM
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.......the weight should not be much of an issue.
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If anything it might be to light!
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Old Nov 21, 2010, 04:54 AM
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Hi Bill,

If it would be a HF Ventus it would have glass wings and two-piece wings. Also the way the retract looks and the way it is built in the fuselage would give away if it is a Chech built glider.
Then again repairing a glass wing after a crash is not that easy, so I take it you might have a foam/wood sandwich wing.

Could you give info on the wing construction?
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Old Nov 21, 2010, 08:04 AM
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6m

What drove me to think it was a Discus is the shape of the wing tips-just flared up with no winglets. The wing is hollow-moulded(?), no foam sandwich. The wing spar was not damaged, just a separation of the fiberglass in front of the spar in several areas. The rod thru the fuse is steel.
I'm at work now-I'll post some more pix this afternoon. Bill
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Old Nov 21, 2010, 09:21 AM
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Steel wing rod rules out HF models. Hollow molded wing, with steel rod, Poss KV designs
Retract photo might help.

http://scaleplanes.vagenknecht.cz/in...ctDetail&pid=0

Tail doesn't look right though,

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Old Nov 21, 2010, 09:43 AM
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Could be the LET Ventus... The retract could tell, yes.
http://www.letmodel.cz/gallery-ventus2c.htm

Some years ago the retracts did NOT look like those on their web-site.
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Old Nov 21, 2010, 01:04 PM
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What drove me to think it was a Discus is the shape of the wing tips-just flared up with no winglets.
Hi Bill,

Just for info... early versions of both Discus and Ventus had polyhedral tips, later models of both usually have winglets.

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Old Nov 21, 2010, 01:20 PM
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I have a LET Ventus 2cx and it is definately not LET, too many differences, and FYI, a Discus and Ventus are basically the same, only the Ventus is a Discus with flaps. But who cares what it is and who made it, just get it flying! And for control throws, normal throws pretty much like any TD ship, 2 to 1 diff, about a half inch up and down on the elevator should do fine for first flight.
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Old Nov 21, 2010, 08:43 PM
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Here are some more pix, one of the retract, tail and some of the damage.Fortunately the damage was fairly easy to repair-it looks worse than you might think. There was no damage past the upper fuse as shown and the wing saddle was intact, so there was no change to wing mounting, incidence, etc. There was no damage to the wing spar, so it was just piecing together and re-inforcing the skin. Kinda like a jig-saw puzzle!
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Old Nov 21, 2010, 09:02 PM
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Hmmmmmm, I'm out.
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