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Old Mar 14, 2012, 10:14 AM
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Combining Mono and Braided Winch Line

I need a few ideas, on the best way to have a braided down line and mono upline on a F3B winch. If you have a connector between the two, please add a drawing of it or a pic.

Thank You,

Robert
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 10:17 AM
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I need a few ideas, on the best way to have a braided down line and mono upline on a F3B winch. If you have a connector between the two, please add a drawing of it or a pic.

Thank You,

Robert
Bob,

There was a thread awhile back on tying the two together, search may find it
for you. ( not sure which forum, I would guess f3x )

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Old Mar 14, 2012, 11:52 AM
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hey bob,
here's a one for you.
http://www.netknots.com/html/albright_special.html
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 01:04 PM
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Thanks guys, I was looking for the different fittings people where using between the lines as just looping the end of each line allows me to remove the mono and store it.
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 06:33 PM
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You want to retire knots in mono regularly.
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 06:35 PM
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Thanks guys, I was looking for the different fittings people where using between the lines as just looping the end of each line allows me to remove the mono and store it.

Attached is an item many have been using
I would not recomend this item .you can tie the two lines together usung the knot that has been posted . This works GREAT!!
For safety reasons I wouldnt want this steel link flying through the air and hurting someone on a line break..
Just cut off the knot and re-tie it as needed .. Be safe..
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My team used the links than Don shows for the last two contests...work great and allows quick line changes.

Since they are on the ground line side of the turnaround, a break there would result in the turnaround stopping the link. I don't know that a break in the air line would be that hazardous...since the braided line stretches very little, the link quite likely wouldn't come back as far as the winches.

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Old Mar 14, 2012, 08:05 PM
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------opinions-------

2.8oz and braided on the small radius
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We have been using the quick links that Tom showed for several years. As Tom says, it's not a safety issue in use. Use the 300# one and it also ensures that you don't/can't pull the connection thru the turnaround. That is not good.

Tying the line is slow when you are in a hurry to get the line fixed...


It can be a safety issue when you wind up - so take it off before you wind the line in. We always take the air leg off separately and wind it up to resoak it.

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Old Mar 15, 2012, 01:00 PM
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When I fish for tuna, I use mono leaders spliced to braided running line. If you use high test strength braid for the winch ground line it is probably hollow. All Spectra lines are hollow in the middle. Fishermen feed the end of the mono line into the center of the braided line for about 1 foot. Usually a little ca is put on the braid near the end of the mono. This creates a seamless connection between the braid and the mono. The harder you pull on the mono, the tighter the connection becomes. Breaking strength remains 100% for both lines, since no knots are involved. It works on the same principle as a Chinese finger puzzle. Just a thought for you application.

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Old Mar 15, 2012, 01:03 PM
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Thanks George,

I think you would be a little disappointed in the braided line we use, it is not hollow.
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Old Mar 19, 2012, 05:55 PM
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The final solution.

This worked for an afternoon, of Espada launches. Next upgraded is to add a foot of braided line with a loop at both ends, to replace the mono loop. The mono loop will be combined with the braided loop, like you do on the chute, to reduce abrasion of the mono and metal quick release.

Thanks for the help, guys and ACE hardware.

Robert
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Old Mar 19, 2012, 06:23 PM
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Not to be overcomplicated - you don't need any additional line. Make sure to use some sheathing on the mono - picture of mono and knot attached. You then just need to put the mono on the quicklink the same as you did the braided. Note that in your picture you have a double loop on the braided end. That distributes the pressure across 2 parts of the sheathed mono. I'll take a picture when I get home.

You get the sheathing at good sporting goods or climbing stores. I use parachute cord in different colors to indicate the size of the line it is on. e.g. white for 1.1, green for 1.28, blue for 1.38 and black for 1.50 (darker is heavier). Climbing cord works well too, but not as many colors available.

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Old Mar 19, 2012, 07:05 PM
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Like most problems more than one solution....
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