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Old Sep 08, 2005, 09:38 AM
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Robbe TOPAS questions

I“m considering getting one second-hand. I really would like to hear your opinons on the model

Thank you beforehand

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Old Sep 08, 2005, 03:37 PM
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nice
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Old Sep 09, 2005, 06:46 AM
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Indeed
The kit is no longer in production but seems quite similar to Graupner“s Libera Ocean see photo. I read that the "horizontal" spread of the sail area with two masts makes for a lower pressure center and higher wind handling capabilities.

Plus points to me-
ready to sail as unfortunately I have little time for building
really beautiful

Drawbacks-

Might be too scale to sail well
a little on the large size

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Old Sep 09, 2005, 07:21 AM
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Joao, I don't think it fits any class and you probably won't want to race. So why worry about it not sailing "well"? I'd think with that kind of boat, success has more to do with how it looks on the water rather than how fast it sails.
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Old Sep 09, 2005, 04:46 PM
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Hi Joao,

Like Martin said, the boat looks stunning.

It will probably sail very good aswell, as it has a winged keel.
Judging from the pictures the Liberia Ocean's keel is slightly deeper, but I don't think it will make much difference, maybe it'll handle a bit less wind.

If you like it, go for it!

And post some pics of her, sailing.

Regards, Jan.

P.S.: and you cįn race her, just join the Open Class here in the Netherlands, several race-day's a year...
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Old Sep 10, 2005, 05:13 PM
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Martin, Jan,

Thank you for your advice !

I took today some shots of the water surface available at 15 min distance.

I promise that in a very short time you will see some sails in the picture, Topas or otherwise...

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Old Sep 10, 2005, 05:17 PM
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and rotating the camera 90ŗ to the right....
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Old Sep 11, 2005, 11:46 AM
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A few boats would make the Mondego even more picturesque
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Old Sep 11, 2005, 02:25 PM
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Absolutamente Martin,
Speaking of picturesque, I couldn“t help take a photo of a... fisherperson ? that happened to be there.
Some photos of the model the seller sent me by mail:

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Old Sep 11, 2005, 06:15 PM
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looks like she sails nicely.
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Old Sep 12, 2005, 09:25 AM
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wingnut163,

Thank you for your comment as I have very limited experience on model sailboats. Your“s is a beautiful fleet
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Old Sep 12, 2005, 02:23 PM
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Joao; i'm not that far ahead of you. did a little sailing on real boats, punts,18footers, sunfish,some one elses. then this. i enjoy sailing but don't have any one to sail with and don't get out much. lazy. but modeling is my extra time.
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Old Sep 23, 2005, 07:54 AM
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Project sailboat update


Thank you all for your help.

Well, I“ve got already two, sailboats but not yet with me.

A friend of a friend had a 1.5 meters long (height 2,5 m??) full racing wonder that I traded for a glider over the phone.

With such a big thing I had to get a portable sailboat, so I got a Micro-Magic from Graupner (total height 1 meter) . It seems that this little fellow sails really well . Jan, Ive been told that there is a kind of craze in several countries with this sailboat, particularly in the Netherlands ...

The Topas will have to wait a little more.

As the following images show, I have already some rescue equipment getting ready !
I will post some images soon

Cheers, Joćo
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Old Sep 23, 2005, 07:05 PM
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Joao, you have to have the Topas! What a great looking boat! Very nice looking sailing location too!

good luck!
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Old Sep 24, 2005, 10:29 AM
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Project sailboat update

. Jan, Ive been told that there is a kind of craze in several countries with this sailboat, particularly in the Netherlands ...

Cheers, Joćo
You can say that again...
Over the past year over 1200 Mocromagics have been sold, Graupner can hardly keep up, they are out of stock regulary.

If I'm not mistaken, over a 1000 sailnumbers have been issued.

As soon as the 1:1 sailingseason draws to an end, the MM winter cup starts, as alot of MM sailors have a 1:1 boat.

Take a look on www.micromagic.nl and www.micromagic.de for more pictures and info.

I take part in some of the MM wintercup regatta's but don't have a MM of my own, it's too nervous for my likings, I sail a promotion boat in regatta's, great fun as the starting fields can be large.

Regards, Jan.
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