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Old Oct 21, 2012, 07:10 AM
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The Spanish connection:


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Old Oct 21, 2012, 07:12 AM
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More doping scandal fallout, after 17 years sponsoring bike racing team sponsor Rabobank decides to pull out of the sport because of the bad press:


http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...ontinue_261940
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 01:09 PM
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Usta, at 36 in Pro Cycling... it's time to retire.

I don't take the old guys seriously, I was running like a freight train until 38... When I started noticing I was slowing down no matter how much I worked on it. The 22-24 year olds were starting to get brutal.

The sweet spot is 28 to 36, old enough to know where you have to be and not so old you can't cut it. Seems most pros run that way too.

Eddy Merckx had the good sense to retire a winner.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 09:04 PM
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Nothing new to report today.

His sponsor Oakley finally dropped him after everyone else has.

Armstrong's 7 Tour De France wins taken away, and there will be no official winner listed for those races. He now has a lifetime ban from cycling too.

Which brings up a new lawsuit against Lance. He won $7.5 million in bonus money be winning the Tour De France several times. After the book LA Confidential came out talking about the possibility of him doping the company paying the bonus tried to get out of it by saying that he doped during those races. Lance sued them, and gave testimony under oath that he didn't dope. The company lost the lawsuit because doping wasn't a stipulation in the contract, only winning the races. He's now offcially NOT the winner anymore, so the company is suing him for the money back. It could get interesting because he lied under oath.



http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...ctories_262306
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 10:27 PM
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Nothing new to report today.

His sponsor Oakley finally dropped him after everyone else has.

Armstrong's 7 Tour De France wins taken away, and there will be no official winner listed for those races. He now has a lifetime ban from cycling too.

Which brings up a new lawsuit against Lance. He won $7.5 million in bonus money be winning the Tour De France several times. After the book LA Confidential came out talking about the possibility of him doping the company paying the bonus tried to get out of it by saying that he doped during those races. Lance sued them, and gave testimony under oath that he didn't dope. The company lost the lawsuit because doping wasn't a stipulation in the contract, only winning the races. He's now offcially NOT the winner anymore, so the company is suing him for the money back. It could get interesting because he lied under oath.



http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...ctories_262306
I doubt they could win since he never admitted anything. I think he quit when he did to save his money.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 02:11 AM
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The hypocrisy of the sponsors is appaling. It was common knowledge that he was doping and they were supporting him when he was still a "hero" but come the demise and they are running away as if he had the plague.

If I were American, I would be pretty angry at Lance for the damage he's done to the reputation of my country. Greg Lemond came to race in Europe and left a very good image of Americans' cyclists, then came Lance who destroyed Greg's good work within a couple of years. He was so arrogant and it was so obvious that he was cheating that people lost interest in the tour de France. Whenever a paper was daring to speak up he was just adding to the offense by replying that he was clean but the journalist was writing this out of anti-Americanism.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 05:40 AM
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The people I feel sorry for are the cancer survivors. They treated him like he was The New Messiah, and followed him around to the races like the Tour De France cheering him on. Now they have a doper as a hero.

The sad thing is is that those people totally have blinders on to what Lance is really like as a person, and they can only see that he started Livestrong. They don't care that he cheated, they don't care that he took money away from non-cheaters through his doping, they don't care that he destroyed people's live and careers, and they don't care that he lied and used intimidation and threats of lawsuits to cover up all his years of doping.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 05:51 AM
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The hypocrisy of the sponsors is appaling. It was common knowledge that he was doping and they were supporting him when he was still a "hero" but come the demise and they are running away as if he had the plague.

If I were American, I would be pretty angry at Lance for the damage he's done to the reputation of my country. Greg Lemond came to race in Europe and left a very good image of Americans' cyclists, then came Lance who destroyed Greg's good work within a couple of years. He was so arrogant and it was so obvious that he was cheating that people lost interest in the tour de France. Whenever a paper was daring to speak up he was just adding to the offense by replying that he was clean but the journalist was writing this out of anti-Americanism.
Cycling and arrogance. Two things that France should always dominate America in.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 05:55 AM
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Sport is not sport when there's money involved

'Professional' sport - that's an oxymoron
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 06:15 AM
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Cycling and arrogance. Two things that France should always dominate America in.
No French cyclist has won the tour since 1985.

For arrogance I reckon itīs a close contest...

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'Professional' sport - that's an oxymoron
Music to my ears!
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 08:02 AM
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I agree there should be consequences but if the money is going to needed causes that help people why should they have to suffer because lance cheated riding a bicycle?
They shouldn't suffer... But they probably will, even though Lance has stepped aside for for now.

Just add this to the list of why deceiving people is bad... Innocent people become victims.
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 08:05 AM
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Nothing new to report today.

His sponsor Oakley finally dropped him after everyone else has.

Armstrong's 7 Tour De France wins taken away, and there will be no official winner listed for those races. He now has a lifetime ban from cycling too.

Which brings up a new lawsuit against Lance. He won $7.5 million in bonus money be winning the Tour De France several times. After the book LA Confidential came out talking about the possibility of him doping the company paying the bonus tried to get out of it by saying that he doped during those races. Lance sued them, and gave testimony under oath that he didn't dope. The company lost the lawsuit because doping wasn't a stipulation in the contract, only winning the races. He's now offcially NOT the winner anymore, so the company is suing him for the money back. It could get interesting because he lied under oath.



http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...ctories_262306
Yup, I can't wait to see how specifically, plays out.
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 08:06 AM
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The hypocrisy of the sponsors is appaling. It was common knowledge that he was doping and they were supporting him when he was still a "hero" but come the demise and they are running away as if he had the plague.

If I were American, I would be pretty angry at Lance for the damage he's done to the reputation of my country. Greg Lemond came to race in Europe and left a very good image of Americans' cyclists, then came Lance who destroyed Greg's good work within a couple of years. He was so arrogant and it was so obvious that he was cheating that people lost interest in the tour de France. Whenever a paper was daring to speak up he was just adding to the offense by replying that he was clean but the journalist was writing this out of anti-Americanism.
Yup, so true... I think Lance and Trek owe Greg LeMond a bicycle company. That whole situation is just horrible now that Trek has even dropped Lance.
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 08:08 AM
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Cycling and arrogance. Two things that France should always dominate America in.
I just got back from France. They were good people.

Have you ever been there?
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 04:26 PM
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More on the SCA lawsuit against Lance:


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-...sEnabled=false
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