speedo thermo 1.2m - Page 5

satinet · Jun 09, 2007, 05:09 PM

okay, but it still begs the question of "what's the point?". You want to get the battery further forward for two reasons. to help the cg so you don't have to fill the nose full of lead and secondly to make it easier to to fit a receiver and servo in there.

i really don't understand what the benefit of having foam around the battery is. If you hit the fuse that hard, it would be totally junked anyway.........

anyway, just trying to help........ if you can fit it all in great.

Roger Lombard · Jun 15, 2007, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mallettron

where do you fly?, I''m in Sheffield and thinking about joing SAA

Ronnie

Ive got the Speedo and Ptero-X (still got to make them of course)

Sheffield has a good sloping site (they also fly electric on another site but no i.c.) and very friendly membership.

http://www.ssaclub.org.uk/

mallettron · Jun 16, 2007, 02:54 AM

Thanks Roger, you have a few hills in Derbyshire that look good!

Ronnie

rockbus · Jun 18, 2007, 06:27 PM

Saw one of these little planes fly Sunday PM (Mike had one). Flies very nice and fast. Anyone know if there is a local (San Deigo) Distrbiutor or if there is a way to reduce the shipping costs (buying two or more at one time).

ORANATOR · Jun 18, 2007, 08:16 PM

I contacted the ebay distributor and got a whopping 3 dollars off when I bought 2 of them...

I also seen Mike's fly and flew it a little that's what prompted me to buy 1.

Oranator

rockbus · Jun 18, 2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ORANATOR

I contacted the ebay distributor and got a whopping 3 dollars off when I bought 2 of them...

I also seen Mike's fly and flew it a little that's what prompted me to buy 1.

Oranator

Oran,

Not much of shipping discount. You would'nt be interested in selling one of them to me would you?

Ray

ORANATOR · Jun 18, 2007, 09:31 PM

Hey Ray,

I am making one for Arnould "Frenchy" from Dave's beach and the other for myself.

I really think there is going to be a dozen or so flying at the beach real soon, great little flyer and a good price.
I am going to fill mine with lead and make it a little rocket ship!

I have a couple of thoughts on the built, like putting the battery in the wing and literally filling the fuse under the wing saddle and nose with lead.
Also the short time I flew Mike's plane I found the plane had a wiggle in the tail. I will also increase the vertical area by an inch or so.

I understand that they make a terrific light wind sloper but I like speed and with the thin airfoil I believe I can really make this little ship RIP!

Oranator

steve wenban · Jun 18, 2007, 11:51 PM

Here's my Passer still have to throw the gear in but pretty happy with it

SteveW

satinet · Jun 19, 2007, 03:50 AM

i'm struggling to think of a way to keep the canopy on with this one. anybody care to share a photo of their canopy set up?

i was thinking of the usual wire rod, but there isn't much to get it into........

Roger Lombard · Jun 19, 2007, 05:00 AM

Black or white plastic insulating tape. Not clever, not pretty but very easy, effective and light.

I have a "permanent" hinge made from tape at the front and at the rear I unpeel it to open the canopy for battery fitment/connection/removal. You may need to replace the peelable bit every 10 -15 or so flights but I reckon a roll of tape will last you several years!!

satinet · Jun 19, 2007, 05:31 AM

yeah i was thinking along the same lines. but usually some clever so and so thinks of something...... thanks roger

Let us know how that passer goes Steve.

steve wenban · Jun 19, 2007, 03:28 PM

As for the canopy hold down I just epoxy a pick up stick inside the canopy .
(pickup sticks=fiddle sticks childrens game with plastic sticks ) just to clarify
SteveW

satinet · Jun 19, 2007, 03:38 PM

mine's ready to maiden now. I've got all the throws sorted (guessed at). The cofg is at about 65mm at the moment. I glued some lead into the nose so it naturally balances at 72mm. I can go futher back by moving the battery slightly. But i have a little weight on top of the battery at the moment to get the 54mm. hopefully that can be removed. but as there is no definative cofg for these yet, i'm being cautious. the makers say 55 and one guy said 75. others have said 65 is a little nose heavy, so we'll see......

will just tape the canopy on for now. for a want of stick things!

I've also got camber changing and spoilerons, but i can't see these working (especially the former) with the outboard ailerons.

satinet · Jun 20, 2007, 08:55 AM

i flew the speedo this morning. very nice

mine tugged a bit to the left and i needed a fair bit of trim. Will have to double check my ailerons and wing joint.

Other than that it flew really nice. i removed the little bit of lead after a few flights and it went better. bit hard to set her up though as it was very choppy and i was mostly pointing the nose into the wind. The few rolls i did seem axial, but i was quite high when i did them, so i'll have to bring it in closer in better conditions. Seems like it won't need much, if any differential.

big thumbs up

Cory · Jun 20, 2007, 02:53 PM

I'm trying to finish mine up this week. I just need to install the elevator push rod and balance it. What is a good starting point for control throws?

Satinet, where is your CG now after you removed some of the lead?

Jun 18, 2007, 11:51 PM	#68
steve wenban builder , flyer,repairer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mt Annan Sydney Australia Posts: 11,943	Passer Thermo Here's my Passer still have to throw the gear in but pretty happy with it SteveW Attached Thumbnails 64.7 KB · Views: 383 Last edited by steve wenban; Jun 19, 2007 at 04:07 AM.

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Jun 09, 2007, 05:09 PM	#61
satinet Don't milquetoast me! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Warwickshire, England Posts: 3,692	okay, but it still begs the question of "what's the point?". You want to get the battery further forward for two reasons. to help the cg so you don't have to fill the nose full of lead and secondly to make it easier to to fit a receiver and servo in there. i really don't understand what the benefit of having foam around the battery is. If you hit the fuse that hard, it would be totally junked anyway......... anyway, just trying to help........ if you can fit it all in great.

Jun 16, 2007, 02:54 AM	#63
mallettron Ronnie - Sheffield UK (G0NJD) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sheffield, S. Yorks, UK Posts: 160	Thanks Roger, you have a few hills in Derbyshire that look good! Ronnie

Jun 18, 2007, 06:27 PM	#64
rockbus Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,182	Saw one of these little planes fly Sunday PM (Mike had one). Flies very nice and fast. Anyone know if there is a local (San Deigo) Distrbiutor or if there is a way to reduce the shipping costs (buying two or more at one time).

Jun 18, 2007, 08:16 PM	#65
ORANATOR Slope Stud Join Date: May 2001 Location: Oceanside, California, United States Posts: 1,285	I contacted the ebay distributor and got a whopping 3 dollars off when I bought 2 of them... I also seen Mike's fly and flew it a little that's what prompted me to buy 1. Oranator

Jun 18, 2007, 09:31 PM	#67
ORANATOR Slope Stud Join Date: May 2001 Location: Oceanside, California, United States Posts: 1,285	Hey Ray, I am making one for Arnould "Frenchy" from Dave's beach and the other for myself. I really think there is going to be a dozen or so flying at the beach real soon, great little flyer and a good price. I am going to fill mine with lead and make it a little rocket ship! I have a couple of thoughts on the built, like putting the battery in the wing and literally filling the fuse under the wing saddle and nose with lead. Also the short time I flew Mike's plane I found the plane had a wiggle in the tail. I will also increase the vertical area by an inch or so. I understand that they make a terrific light wind sloper but I like speed and with the thin airfoil I believe I can really make this little ship RIP! Oranator

Jun 19, 2007, 03:50 AM	#69
satinet Don't milquetoast me! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Warwickshire, England Posts: 3,692	i'm struggling to think of a way to keep the canopy on with this one. anybody care to share a photo of their canopy set up? i was thinking of the usual wire rod, but there isn't much to get it into........

Jun 19, 2007, 05:00 AM	#70
Roger Lombard Confused? Who, me? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Derbyshire Peak District, UK Posts: 3,709	Black or white plastic insulating tape. Not clever, not pretty but very easy, effective and light. I have a "permanent" hinge made from tape at the front and at the rear I unpeel it to open the canopy for battery fitment/connection/removal. You may need to replace the peelable bit every 10 -15 or so flights but I reckon a roll of tape will last you several years!!

Jun 19, 2007, 05:31 AM	#71
satinet Don't milquetoast me! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Warwickshire, England Posts: 3,692	yeah i was thinking along the same lines. but usually some clever so and so thinks of something...... thanks roger Let us know how that passer goes Steve.

Jun 19, 2007, 03:28 PM	#72
steve wenban builder , flyer,repairer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mt Annan Sydney Australia Posts: 11,943	As for the canopy hold down I just epoxy a pick up stick inside the canopy . (pickup sticks=fiddle sticks childrens game with plastic sticks ) just to clarify SteveW

Jun 19, 2007, 03:38 PM	#73
satinet Don't milquetoast me! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Warwickshire, England Posts: 3,692	mine's ready to maiden now. I've got all the throws sorted (guessed at). The cofg is at about 65mm at the moment. I glued some lead into the nose so it naturally balances at 72mm. I can go futher back by moving the battery slightly. But i have a little weight on top of the battery at the moment to get the 54mm. hopefully that can be removed. but as there is no definative cofg for these yet, i'm being cautious. the makers say 55 and one guy said 75. others have said 65 is a little nose heavy, so we'll see...... will just tape the canopy on for now. for a want of stick things! I've also got camber changing and spoilerons, but i can't see these working (especially the former) with the outboard ailerons.

Jun 20, 2007, 08:55 AM	#74
satinet Don't milquetoast me! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Warwickshire, England Posts: 3,692	i flew the speedo this morning. very nice mine tugged a bit to the left and i needed a fair bit of trim. Will have to double check my ailerons and wing joint. Other than that it flew really nice. i removed the little bit of lead after a few flights and it went better. bit hard to set her up though as it was very choppy and i was mostly pointing the nose into the wind. The few rolls i did seem axial, but i was quite high when i did them, so i'll have to bring it in closer in better conditions. Seems like it won't need much, if any differential. big thumbs up

Jun 20, 2007, 02:53 PM	#75
Cory DS slower than I build! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Falls Posts: 1,156	I'm trying to finish mine up this week. I just need to install the elevator push rod and balance it. What is a good starting point for control throws? Satinet, where is your CG now after you removed some of the lead?