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Old Oct 14, 2013, 12:20 AM
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Also the Belgian federation insist that competition has to be flown in one year so we have to fly 4 rounds before the end of 2013 and no rounds in januari, februari.
nothing we can do about that.
That makes it very easy then, as for 2013 the old - well known - sequences are still valid.

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Old Oct 14, 2013, 12:25 AM
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today I judges the first competion from this season in Holland and also there they had the discussion what to do with figure 2.
They decided to fly the trombone the way it was flown in the last year's F sequence. But also mentioned it could be changed in international competitions.
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The knife-edge trombone has been shown on video:

Temporary F3P AP15 schedule - Loïc HAUX (2 min 37 sec)


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Old Oct 14, 2013, 03:56 AM
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no we fly the new program also in Belgium.
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Old Oct 14, 2013, 04:29 AM
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no we fly the new program also in Belgium.
Well, if the Belgian federation insists on flying all competitions in 2013, they should consequently insist on flying the valid F3P FAI sequences for 2013.

The new sequences are still preliminary and may be subject to change. You'd have to wait until the new Sporting Code is out for 2014/2015.

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what seqence will be flown in Nordhorn the 9/10 november ?
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Old Oct 14, 2013, 12:10 PM
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what seqence will be flown in Nordhorn the 9/10 november ?
Download available here: http://slowflyer.dmfv.aero/files/AS-IDK-2013.pdf

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I asked F3A Sub Committee chairman Micheal Ramel to clarify maneuver AP-15.02.

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As you read it there must be a 1/2 circle, not a 1/2 loop.
It is to understand as a crossbox manoeuvre, like the “Fighter Turn” was in F3A F-13 with the wing in a 45° angle at the outer position of the circle.


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Old Oct 16, 2013, 12:09 AM
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I asked F3A Sub Committee chairman Micheal Ramel to clarify maneuver AP-15.02.

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As you read it there must be a 1/2 circle, not a 1/2 loop.
It is to understand as a crossbox manoeuvre, like the “Fighter Turn” was in F3A F-13 with the wing in a 45° angle at the outer position of the circle.

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If the knife-edge trombone should be flown the same way as the "old" trombone in F3P-AF 13.06, then why the heck did they change the name and the Aresti drawing?

Together with the video of the original proposal this just causes unnecessary confusion and discussions, when it could be simple and straight forward. ...

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Old Oct 17, 2013, 01:12 PM
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Elanor 2014 Maiden flight Christian Oppliger (3 min 14 sec)


Who the heck came up with F3P-AF 15.05? 50 seconds for a single manoeuvre?! This figure just does not fit into the sequence.

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Old Oct 22, 2013, 03:20 AM
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If the knife-edge trombone should be flown the same way as the "old" trombone in F3P-AF 13.06, then why the heck did they change the name and the Aresti drawing?

Together with the video of the original proposal this just causes unnecessary confusion and discussions, when it could be simple and straight forward. ...
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For the German Indoor Aerobatics Championship 2013, I will inform all pilots, that the "Knife-Edge Trombone" must be flown as in last year's F3P-AF sequence. In order to avoid any confusion, I will also change the Aresti drawing accordingly.

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Old Oct 23, 2013, 10:31 AM
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New Aresti Drawing ...

for F3P-Expert (very similar to F3P-AP):
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Old Oct 31, 2013, 05:58 AM
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Also the Belgian federation insist that competition has to be flown in one year so we have to fly 4 rounds before the end of 2013 and no rounds in januari, februari.
nothing we can do about that.
Hi Peter,

I have noticed that the first competition (Frameries) has been cancelled. Not enough competitors, or what was the reason?

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nobody was ready, even now, still most of them have to maiden their planes tomorrow for competition this Sunday.

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nobody was ready, even now, still most of them have to maiden their planes tomorrow for competition this Sunday.
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Good luck! Looking forward to seeing some results.

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