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Old Oct 23, 2007, 08:07 PM
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Which radio manufacturer cares about sailplanes?

Something I have noticed as this year winds down, which maker of radios has done more to promote soaring, just a few weeks ago I flew at the Visalia Fall Festival, the guys from JR/Horizon Hobbys were there to show the new 9303 2.4 radio and had a nice display booth with hats and t-shirts for all. For the 5th year, they have sponsored the JR Aerotow in Monticello Illinois and do a fabulous job there and provide shipping to and from the event for west coast flyers.
While Airtronics has sponsored the International Hand Launch at Poway, I wonder about next year, Airtronics (now Global Hobby) has really dropped the ball with sailplane radios, they used to be THE one to have.
Haven't seen much support from Futaba or Hitec for glider guys (unless the Cularis counts- not sure if it does).
My money is absolutely going to JR, they have shown me they listen to the glider market and have a wonderful new radio coming soon, and everyone knows the JR servos are the best you can buy!
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Old Oct 23, 2007, 08:17 PM
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what about multiplex? throw away the Stylus and get an EVO
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Old Oct 23, 2007, 10:07 PM
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I have had nothing but wonderful service and treatment from JR and Horizon Hobbies.. Brian Smith


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Something I have noticed as this year winds down, which maker of radios has done more to promote soaring, just a few weeks ago I flew at the Visalia Fall Festival, the guys from JR/Horizon Hobbys were there to show the new 9303 2.4 radio and had a nice display booth with hats and t-shirts for all. For the 5th year, they have sponsored the JR Aerotow in Monticello Illinois and do a fabulous job there and provide shipping to and from the event for west coast flyers.
While Airtronics has sponsored the International Hand Launch at Poway, I wonder about next year, Airtronics (now Global Hobby) has really dropped the ball with sailplane radios, they used to be THE one to have.
Haven't seen much support from Futaba or Hitec for glider guys (unless the Cularis counts- not sure if it does).
My money is absolutely going to JR, they have shown me they listen to the glider market and have a wonderful new radio coming soon, and everyone knows the JR servos are the best you can buy!
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Old Oct 24, 2007, 06:09 AM
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Multiplex and Graupner are very sailplane friendly.

At this years F3J Euro Champs, here are the numbers of transmitters used from manufacturers. You will see a similar distribution at almost any major international.

Graupner 62
Multiplex 15
Futaba 14
JR 5
Sanwa 2
TOTAL 98

Of the Graupner transmitters, here is the spread.

MC 18 1
MC 19 5
MC 20 6
MC 22 12
MC 22S 5
MX 22 2
MC 24 31
TOTAL 62
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Old Oct 24, 2007, 04:29 PM
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Something I have noticed as this year winds down, which maker of radios has done more to promote soaring, just a few weeks ago I flew at the Visalia Fall Festival, the guys from JR/Horizon Hobbys were there to show the new 9303 2.4 radio and had a nice display booth with hats and t-shirts for all. For the 5th year, they have sponsored the JR Aerotow in Monticello Illinois and do a fabulous job there and provide shipping to and from the event for west coast flyers.
While Airtronics has sponsored the International Hand Launch at Poway, I wonder about next year, Airtronics (now Global Hobby) has really dropped the ball with sailplane radios, they used to be THE one to have.
Haven't seen much support from Futaba or Hitec for glider guys (unless the Cularis counts- not sure if it does).
My money is absolutely going to JR, they have shown me they listen to the glider market and have a wonderful new radio coming soon, and everyone knows the JR servos are the best you can buy!
You see MacDonalds everywhere but there are better places to eat.
Go Multiplex.
The Cockpit SX is probaby one of the best glider TX for anyone who is into sport flying with a 4 surface wing. Go Evo9 if you need more.
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Old Oct 24, 2007, 06:00 PM
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...... and Profi 4000 for even more

I agree that the Cockpit SX has an amazing set of features and is a more than a match for some much more expensive tx's from other manufacturers
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Old Oct 24, 2007, 07:59 PM
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Original poster is in the USA. Unfortunately we don't get many of the radio's people across the pond can get (SX etc.) , and said manufacturer's do not actively support sailplane activities nor have decent service over here. JR is the only "real" game here (imho of course).
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Old Oct 24, 2007, 08:19 PM
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Original poster is in the USA. Unfortunately we don't get many of the radio's people across the pond can get (SX etc.) , and said manufacturer's do not actively support sailplane activities nor have decent service over here. JR is the only "real" game here (imho of course).
IMO, Multiplex trumps JR for sailplane support.

Actually since I got my EVO, everyone at my flying field that fly JR keep eyeballing my Tx and asking questions, "Can it do this or that? Can you really assign every switch? Can you convert to 2.4gHz? Is it easy to program? Does it support Heli's?" I can say yes to every question. The they ask "How much?" and I point them to Hobby Horse web site for pricing. The next week they show up and say "Dang, it's cheaper that what I paid for my JR! I think I have to get one of those."

There was only 2 of us with EVO's now we have 4, and it looks like the numbers will keep going up
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 03:35 AM
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IMO, Multiplex trumps JR for sailplane support.
My comments regarding support were in the spirit of the original post. JR is everywhere supporting the hobby actively in the US (contests large and small, raffles, etc). JR actively seeks US pilot input for next gen radios. JR has native 2.4 availability.

Believe me if I could get EVO programming with native DSM2 (Rx product line broader and cheaper than EVO 2.4 add on's) I will be first in line .
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 04:26 AM
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Multiplex EVO (or Profi if you don't mind the style and have the $$ - oh, and can find one!)..

rvsixer, I just converted one of my EVO's to JR Spektrum for the same reasons (Rx choice) - it was a 90-minute project. Thread discussing it here
My conversion is in posts 218 & 219. I've flown it since, no problems!
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 05:05 AM
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rvsixer, I just converted one of my EVO's to JR Spektrum for the same reasons (Rx choice) - it was a 90-minute project.
Nice conversion, but I am after native DSM2.

Back to non-hijack mode .
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 06:55 AM
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Horizon Hobby cares more about RC Soaring than the other guys, if their visible support is any indication. They sell JR Radios, along with Spektrum now. The 9303's are excellent sailplane radios, and right now they are ahead of everybody else with their implementation of 2.4 gig. The 9303's sailplane programming is very well done. I used one for a couple seasons and found it to be more than adequate for my glider needs. I just got hold of an x9303 that I'm looking forward to trying out this weekend.

I have a Profi 4000 somewhere buried in a basement closet, it's a great radio that has the ergonomics of a con block. If I were just sitting around the shop on rainy days setting up airplanes I'd still be using it. The programming environment is logical. Trying to actually use it outside in the sunshine to fly sailplanes is less enjoyable.

I used to have an Evo. I found it to be quite interesting, with the logical Multiplex programming environment. Unfortunately it has some limitations that I am unwilling to accept.

I used to fly Airtronics but they have squandered a once great lead with their products. Nothing new from Airtronics for however many years is reaping great dividends for their competition. JR and Sanwa should send them a bonus this Christmas.

I currently fly a Futaba 14MZ that is the best radio I've ever had. I find it enjoyable to program and fly with. It has more capabilities than anybody elses product, and you pay for it. Futaba has provided competent support, but they are not out there to the extent that Horizon is. They have fallen behind with their delivery of 2.4 gig equipment.
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 08:45 AM
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Back to the original message, where is Hitec/Multilplex at sailplane events (and with 2.4 technology?), JR people are at the events, showing new product, answering questions, no one else is.
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 08:54 AM
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...... and Profi 4000 for even more
Sadly only if you already have one as Multiplex now seem to have dropped the Profi MC4000 range completely. At least according to their UK/IRL rep
http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/index.php/...html#msg488866

It certainly seems that JR are prominent in North America and Graupner in Europe, at least as far as flat field soaring goes. On the slopes in the UK though Multiplex could have the edge.
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 09:17 AM
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While Airtronics has sponsored the International Hand Launch at Poway
Multiplex has sponsored the IHLGF in the past too, right? Granted this was back during the Karlton days, but back then I remember that Multiplex often gave stuff away for raffles and other events.

I agree these last few years, Horizon seems to be the most supporting of the glider community, at least here in the middle USA. It is one reason I'm proud to own a JR radio.

Ryan
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