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Old Nov 02, 2012, 09:02 AM
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Sorry if I mislead anyone with my post #193, I was just quoting what TimBle posted in post #187 (snipet above) and unless I am completely miss-reading the highlighted text it seems to me that it states that there will be flight conditions in Acro mode (I read acro as airplane). I have no firsthand knowledge of this and I have done no research myself to back this up.

Now being in the software business myself I always take roadmaps with a grain of salt and don't assume anything in a roadmap will actually make the final product until I see it myself.

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- Birger
I have to take some of the rap as well. The translation was via a translator software and the information did not come out very clear. It stated 5 Conditions for every model which I interpreted as across Heli Glider and Acro.

Anyway, I'll still be gettting one of these since I was considering getting a 2nd 8FG. AS it stands it still a heck of a lot of radio for themoney but I do hope that it will future have the Conditions feature added.

Thanks for finally confirming Steve. Patient as always.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 10:08 AM
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I'm constantly amazed by the never-ending clash between the same few "fanboy" individuals for each of the brands - but do we really need to resort to calling anyone an "idiot" in the forums?
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 10:43 AM
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Thanks for the update Steve. People need to keep in mind that there is only one person here with the true straight scoop, and that is Steve Kaluf. Everything else is nothing more than sheer speculation. To start quoting people other than Steve as if they are a reliable and knowledgeable sources is not going to prove to be very productive.

This radio costs only 20% of what an 18MZ costs. Is it any surprise that it does not have all the features of that radio? Even at 60% of the 12FG cost it is still not going to have all the features of the more expensive radio. But having said that, this is still one killer radio with tons of great features that will handle what the vast majority of modelers need to do easily. I'm even in line for one!!
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 10:48 AM
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You forgot to add its more expensive than the 8fg but its nothing more than the 8FG in a new box. Every new 600$ system basically has telemetry so this is no big deal.

Cxl'd my order.

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Thanks for the update Steve. People need to keep in mind that there is only one person here with the true straight scoop, and that is Steve Kaluf. Everything else is nothing more than sheer speculation. To start quoting people other than Steve as if they are a reliable and knowledgeable sources is not going to prove to be very productive.

This radio costs only 20% of what an 18MZ costs. Is it any surprise that it does not have all the features of that radio? Even at 60% of the 12FG cost it is still not going to have all the features of the more expensive radio.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 10:57 AM
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You forgot to add its more expensive than the 8fg but its nothing more than the 8FG in a new box. Every new 600$ system basically has telemetry so this is no big deal.

Cxl'd my order.
The 8FG doesn't support multiple protocols, nor does it have a built in S.Bus programmer, telemetry, or vibration alerts. Plus the new box has a bigger screen, soft grips on the side/back, better switch spacing on the top, and a headphone jack for getting your alerts directly to an ear bud.

So it's not exactly "just" an 8FG in a new box, but it is built on the tried and true platform of the 8FG.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 11:07 AM
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I'm constantly amazed by the never-ending clash between the same few "fanboy" individuals for each of the brands - but do we really need to resort to calling anyone an "idiot" in the forums?
“Fanboy” well, you don’t see me arguing on these forums with anyone, I post what I think and move on.
About the 8FG and telemetry, I found that info on another forum and I share it here just like lots of other people do, it was printed in black and white from Robbe not by me, then we later find out that it was not internal telemetry for the 8FG but an add on module for it.
Calling me an Idiot because of that? Well, people sometimes like to show their true colors, I ignore people that act all tough and brave behind a computer keyboard.

Doug.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 11:34 AM
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this is funny how you do trust futaba fanboys.... DougV is another one but more in my opinion.
they like to translate Robbe site to mislead people in the forums.

DougV: "8FG will be upgraded for telemetry" NEVER!
TimBle: "14SG will have 5 acro conditions" NEVER!
tisk tisk snigger snigger..
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 12:31 PM
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14SG will not have conditions in acro. There was mistake in robbe description.

But i don't care. It's still a great radio. I think that 5 dual rates & expo's should be enough. If not then buy better radio. If you buy 14SG you should know his limitation.

Or just be in glider mode and program your acro plane.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 12:40 PM
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nah its fine, I'm working with 5 rate expo and neutral point as it is. A bit limiting but no big deal.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 01:21 PM
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I have had my 8FGS back from repair for about two weeks now. Needless to say I wonder why I did not conver sooner. I love it. I have been following the introduction of the 14GS with interest. I am not a fan of telemetry, as I will not take my eyes off of my aircraft while it is in flight to look at my transmitter for telemetry. Besides I use only A123's and receiver voltage is never an issue.

About the only thing the 14GS has that the 8FGS does not is the ability to slow servos. I had this feature for at least 8 years when I was flying JR and never used it. And I won't be using anything but FASST receivers.

So I will bee happily keeping my new 8FGS and loving it. From my point of view the only thing I would gain is a new case. Not worth the extra money to me.

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Old Nov 02, 2012, 03:28 PM
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This radio costs only 20% of what an 18MZ costs. Is it any surprise that it does not have all the features of that radio? Even at 60% of the 12FG cost it is still not going to have all the features of the more expensive radio.
Certainly that is one way to look at it. In my view justifying that an expensive radio is artificially handicapped in order to support sales of a truly ridiculously expensive radio is odd.

At $600 there is nothing that justifies leaving out software features that are all ready developed and tested in the product family and that you can get for free on a $50 radio elsewhere.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 03:29 PM
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I agree with the Hen, I would go so far as to say that the 8FG has 5 major shortcomings and the snap-flap and adverse yaw control are right near the top of my list:
1. Telemetry
2. Variable/mixable snap-flap
3. Variable/mixable diff/rudd mix
4. Servo slowing
5. Conditions for power planes

I'm confident the 14SG will address items 1, 4, and 5 and I would expect that items 2 and 3 will be addressed in both the 8FG and 14SG as they are critical limitations for which no workaround exists.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 04:37 PM
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Vespa, #5 is confirmed as a no earlier in this thread, it does not have flight conditions in Acro mode.

- No, you cannot program a power plane in glider mode. I've tried, and it is too glider specific. For one, there's not throttle cut in glider mode.

- Telemetry: You don't look at the transmitter while flying. It talks and vibrates. Also, the first time you turn on plane/transmitter and see the RC battery voltage in your TX display, there's no going back.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 04:58 PM
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Yes, I see from the menu structure of FW 0.3 that power planes have no conditions, something also confirmed by Steve above. Presumably that will be corrected prior to release or shortly thereafter.
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