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Old Feb 04, 2012, 07:59 AM
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Who can id this boat

its an early 80's Marblehead with "blacksails" wood spar/booms and probar winch.....rudder is aluminum.
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Old Feb 04, 2012, 08:30 AM
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its a one piece molded deck and hull, lots of rocker in the deck and tumblehome at the stern.
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Old Feb 04, 2012, 08:36 AM
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looks like a DUMAS BINGO....but I dont think it is because of the rocker and tumblehome
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Old Feb 04, 2012, 09:09 AM
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Thought the same at first, but keel and bulb are different. Forward part looks like an Epic, but obviously not a double ender.
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Old Feb 04, 2012, 09:58 AM
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yachtdog
maybe I could slip in here ? I have the same situation, got this hull from a
club member, NO markings inside the hull at all, so no documentation.
best guess is it's 70's at least, and used to be a vane boat, converted to RC.
I had one guess it might be some version of a "Cheerio III'. ????
flat deck,no tumblehome to speak of.
Am thinking about replacing the deck, and move the sail arm and rudder
servo's down below where they belong. I have an old EC-12 mast I will use on
her -should be a "high flyer" class hull.
Allan
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Old Feb 07, 2012, 07:46 AM
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nice lines.....what little I know about the VM highflyer class I would think she fits that class. I have a 1974 LJ50 M boat in addition to that unidentified M boat in this post.

I have seen line drawings/plans for various boats online.....you might have luck looking

or you could send the photo to the Mablehead class sec....check the AMYA website for contact info
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Old Feb 07, 2012, 09:53 AM
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Good idea. Stan Goodwin would know that boat. He's been the M class secretary for over 30 years I think.
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Old Feb 07, 2012, 10:03 PM
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yachtdog - sorry about hijacking your thread, but we do share a similar quest....
and towards that end, I started ripping the deck off my Marblehead tonight, and
guess what I found ? some info - the following was penned onto the top of the
kingplank aft of the hatch, then varnished over to protect it -it reads........

"Built in 1973-74 + modified by Stephen Urbaniak -Mill Pond ( Ma., I think)
Design by J. Weavers "Chick-A-Pat" circa 1958"

so,I now know the design-not sure what the "+ modified" part exactly refers to,
we were assuming this was a vane boat,then converted to RC.if the RC was
done in 1973, that mean the HiTec HS-408BB that is the sail arm winch is that old too ? yikes. oh well, I know more than I did an hour ago.

I have been in touch with Earl Boebert,and he has been a great help in trying to
identify this hull,the other guys not so much.
Allan
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Old Feb 08, 2012, 10:03 AM
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at least someone had the forethought to add that info inside the boat....nice detective work...

i asked Stan Goodwin about our Bingo-esque M boat....he did not recognize it..

Pretty sure it was Built by Billy Brown of Miami, FL in the late 70's or early 80's

We got three M boats from him back in the mid 80's
1. an LJ50
2. the boat pictured in this thread
3. a Soling 50
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Old Feb 08, 2012, 11:15 AM
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Mill Pond MYC is in Port Washington (Long Island) NY.

Cheers,

Earl
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Old Feb 08, 2012, 01:54 PM
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any ideas of the build/origin of the M boat at the top of this thread?
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Old Feb 09, 2012, 11:14 PM
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at least someone had the forethought to add that info inside the boat....nice detective work...

i asked Stan Goodwin about our Bingo-esque M boat....he did not recognize it..

Pretty sure it was Built by Billy Brown of Miami, FL in the late 70's or early 80's

We got three M boats from him back in the mid 80's
1. an LJ50
2. the boat pictured in this thread
3. a Soling 50


There is a M-Hull like yours in the closet of a friends place that looks strikingly similar, if not identical. I'ts totally covered with other stuff, so I can't upload a photo at this time. The tumblehome and transom shape is what is catching me.

He doesn't know what the hull is. But told me "It's a Florida boat"

So, there's your second hint toward it being a Billy Brown of Miami.
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Old Feb 12, 2012, 06:50 AM
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thats very interesting, I would love to see a photo of that closet boat....and would probably be interested in making an offer if its for sale
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Old Feb 12, 2012, 10:12 AM
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Well... if all goes as planned I'll actually end up as the owner of it, as I'm in the market for both a Vintage, and High-Flyer M. his boat is clean & ready to sail, and our club is hosting the VM Nationals this year. I have a Classic, and 2 Modern M's but nothing in the Vintage fleet. and I'd like to jump in on it if possible.
That boat, if it's the same as the one I know of qualifies in the High-Flyer division of Vintage M's.

Also, the owner of this boat I know of has, as a rough estimate, 15 Marblehead class boats. If anyone should know exactly what the boat is, it probably should be him. All he knows is that it's a fantastic boat to sail, (In his words... It's a Pissah!) But he does know, without hesitation, the valuation of the boat.

So, given all that I'd say your out of luck on making an offer on the boat.

But, I can offer that if you make a point to come to Marblehead, M.A. this summer for VM Nationals, I'll do my best to bring the hull I know of to the pond. Whether I'm the owner at that point or not, so you can compare.

Between then & now, I'll see if it can get un-covered and snap a photo or two.
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Old Feb 12, 2012, 10:21 AM
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at least someone had the forethought to add that info inside the boat....nice detective work...

i asked Stan Goodwin about our Bingo-esque M boat....he did not recognize it..

Pretty sure it was Built by Billy Brown of Miami, FL in the late 70's or early 80's

We got three M boats from him back in the mid 80's
1. an LJ50
2. the boat pictured in this thread
3. a Soling 50

Standley Goodwin is, and has been the M-Class secretary for nearly 30 years.
However, My recomendation for information on the Vintage or High-Flyer division of the M-Class would be to contact John Snow, or Earl Boebert.

I think I have seen Earl post on this forum?

Regardless, they are both heavily involved in the Vintage M's and may be a good alternate source than Standley for finding out what the boats are.


Here are some additional contacts to try associated with the Vintage M Class:
http://www.usvmyg.org/who/who.htm

I want to say that Thorsail's boat is a Naskeag, but I'm not confident.
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