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Old Mar 08, 2016, 10:08 AM
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Manny:

I read somewhere that it might be at Foster City, site of the IOM Worlds.

There is nothing on the AMYA website yet. Is the LBMYC location official? (Either location is too windy for my Hot Dog �� but I might come down for a day and watch if it is at Foster City).
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Manny:

I read somewhere that it might be at Foster City, site of the IOM Worlds.

There is nothing on the AMYA website yet. Is the LBMYC location official? (Either location is too windy for my Hot Dog �� but I might come down for a day and watch if it is at Foster City).
Now listed on the AMYA web site.
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GPZY......

Getting ready to try a build of one of Claudio D's designs for an "M". I received the template drawings today and they look like a "Sugar Scoop" hull with a maximum beam at deck level of 178 mm. and a maximum waterline beam of 169 mm.

Any chance you might have some beam dimensions for the "Hot Dog" of yours so I can make some comparisons and decide what kind of wind strength might be optimum? Appreciate any comparison specs. He is calling for a bulb weight of 3166 g.

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GPZY......

Getting ready to try a build of one of Claudio D's designs for an "M". I received the template drawings today and they look like a "Sugar Scoop" hull with a maximum beam at deck level of 178 mm. and a maximum waterline beam of 169 mm.

Any chance you might have some beam dimensions for the "Hot Dog" of yours so I can make some comparisons and decide what kind of wind strength might be optimum? Appreciate any comparison specs. He is calling for a bulb weight of 3166 g.

Thanks, Dick

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FoamCrusher - sorry - I asked the wrong person. Any chance you have or could provide the specs for this boat (see above).

Thanks Dick

Apologies to Gpzy
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Shipping my M with swing rigs to CA to race over 4th of July. Its just not happening this year.
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Got enough airline miles to go back and forth 17 million times, but to get a Marblehead Cross country. Ugh.
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Old Mar 17, 2016, 05:16 PM
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FoamCrusher - sorry - I asked the wrong person. Any chance you have or could provide the specs for this boat (see above).

Thanks Dick

Apologies to Gpzy
Dick: I will be glad to, but I am on the road right now and won't be home until next Wednesday.

However, I do remember that the OEM bulb is about 5.5 lbs - same size as an IOM bulb, which is what I used. The AUW is around 8.5 lbs so it is a real lightweight that does well in drifting to about mid A rig range. After that it gradually falls off pace. Of course, being hot dog shaped, the hull is all circular cross sections.

The fin is shaped 3" wide aluminium plate which adds a bit to the ballast. It sits very high in the water at rest giving it a short waterline. The hull never becomes fully submerged to its full beam which further reduces it's already low wetted surface, which is why it does so well in light winds.

Knowing this I'll leave it to you to determine just how valuable the hull dimensions will be to you, but I'll post them after I have a chance to measure them.

I also have a set BG's Indy plans, which is a modern all-around conditions design and can give you those if you want too.

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Brad Gibson is pretty clear about not wanting people to pass around the dimensions and specs from his plans to people who haven't purchased a set. It's a pretty reasonable request given how small his business is and how much he does to make plans and other help available to the r/c sailing community.
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Old Mar 17, 2016, 05:54 PM
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I'll take a look on the plans to see what he says about limitations. I would never copy plans or build a second boat from plans without paying a mold fee, but it never occurred to me that a beam width, bulb weight or AUW would be proprietary.

Tom, do you have a link to where BG may have expanded beyond what it says on the plans?
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I believe if you read the terms and conditions on BG' s web store they say "The purchased document shall not IN ANY WAY be copied altered modified distributed shared uploaded published or sold without the express written permission of the designer Brad Gibson."(emphasis added).

Seems clear to me. And as a matter of respect and simple courtesy I also believe the right thing to do before sharing any info on someone else's design is to ask for permission first.
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I'm not going to get into a pi$$ing match with you, Tom, over the grammar of BG's statement, but it is clear to me that statement clearly applies to the "document" (i.e. the plans) and says nothing about the dimensions as you allege.

As memory serves that is the same language that is on the plans.

That wording is there to preserve his legal right, with which I agree, to be compensated for his time and skill in creating the design and prevent unauthorized copies from being built. A single dimension as mundane as the beam width is not going to allow someone to deny his right to be compensated for his work.

I have had people pirate my software code so I understand the concern, but keep the issue within reason.
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Easy way to settle what that language means is simply to ask Brad Gibson. I'm pretty sure I've got this one right....

Now back to the discussion of the M Nationals...
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