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Old May 31, 2014, 11:47 AM
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Need info on carbon fiber mast

I have a VICTOR MODEL A3 and I just order some carbon fiber tube , size is .3750 . Is this big enough for my sails? I have 3/8 buy 1/2 mast and booms now . I would like to up grade. Thanks Mike
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Old Jun 03, 2014, 10:28 PM
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I guess no one could help me with my question . I'll try the and see what happens.
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Old Jun 03, 2014, 10:36 PM
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I am unfamiliar with the A 3. Is there any other markings or size of sail? If you are working with something the size of the Soling 1Meter it should work for you.
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Old Jun 04, 2014, 07:33 AM
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Yes its the size of a Soling ,this is new territory for me so I quite don't understand what I'm doing , thanks for the information . It will give me a starting point.
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Old Jun 04, 2014, 09:02 AM
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AMYA had an ODOM (1 Meter) mast for sale. I think it was about $80 and while a one-design mast, it certainly would work for a Victor Products boat. Personally, since the Cup Series is not a class, I would fabricate a wooden mast from straight grain pine and varnish/paint. A few ounces heavier, but a heck of a lot less cost.

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Old Jun 04, 2014, 10:16 AM
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I have the Victor Stars & Stripes 1M and I have used the kits wood mast, carbon kite spars and aluminum arrow shafts for masts. The carbon kits spars are smaller than .375" diameter, but I also think they are a little too flexible. They are readily available where I live so I deal with it. Midwest Model Yachting sells lots of stuff, and they list US-1M carbon masts as being 11.1mm (about .437") in diameter. A little larger than yours, but depending on wall thickness and stiffness maybe similar.
If all you are doing is sailing for fun go ahead and see what happens. The only reason I swapped out the wood mast for the carbon tube is that the carbon looks better. The performance difference on those boats (12 meter cup boat) is negligible.
Remember to support the tube any time you need to drill a hole. I use small wood dowels pieces, CA's in place inside. For sheet and pivot attachments, use rubber grommets, no holes required. And lashing to the outside is always better than cutting the fibers.

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Old Jun 04, 2014, 10:29 AM
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Just wanted to add my voice to those who have suggested that their is no real benefit for a Victor boat to upgrade to a carbon fiber mast. No real organized racing of the Victor America 3 and a flexible carbon mast won't be much better than wood anyway. As also pointed out, carbon will be difficult to work with and is prone to crack or split unless carefully drilled and reinforced. Also, without going to a more sophisticated set of sails and other hardware even with a carbon spar, their will effectively be no performance gains. Sail the boat and enjoy it for what it is.....
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Old Jun 04, 2014, 03:51 PM
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The A3 is all I have at the moment, I was interested in making up grades for the experience and fun of it, l'm going to order a Soling soon and modify it if rules allow. I don't get my boat out much no time now but I still enjoy building and at some point sailing .
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Old Jun 04, 2014, 05:34 PM
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Get a copy of the class rules from AMYA web site. Not a lot of changes allowed as it is considered a one-design. If you make changes that aren't "legal" there will be little value as it won't be able to be raced "in class".
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Old Jun 04, 2014, 09:54 PM
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Thanks guys for all the good info , I really like this hobby and would like to learn as much as I can as time goes on.
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