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Old Nov 22, 2012, 02:24 AM
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Moving on to a sport plane but what

Hi all, i am starting to look into a new plane, i have checked all the sites but without anyones real world experience to go by i feel a bit lost.
What i have been flying lately is - fun cub, xeno, HK mini swift and a couple of scratchbuilds. What i am after is a predictable and proven sport type plane to step up to, i have been recommended a parkzone t28 and p51 but to be honest i really like the looks and ability of the edges/yaks/extras etc. I am looking for something foam and something i can handle, i dont think i could do 3d yet so is there a in between plane. I also really like the look of the eflite advance 25e - but it is balsa.
So any suggestions,
Thanks.
Mick.

Edit: I am in Australia
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 03:14 AM
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Most 3D capable planes are built light with low wing loading, equating to slow predictable flight.

Just because a model is 3D capable does not mean you have to fly them 3D. If you keep your control throws lower they can actually be very tame flyers. Most Foam "3D" planes with full fuselage and airfoiled surfaces are rarely truly 3D as they just can't be built as light as balsa/film models. Therefore most 3D foam planes are more suited to sport flying.

I'd say buy the plane you like and keep your control rates lower than required for 3D, you should be good.

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Old Nov 22, 2012, 04:20 AM
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Have a look through the - 3D Foamies forum , - but click on the tiny 'paperclip' symbol at the end of a thread title first, it allows you to see just the pictures in the thread.
Then if you like what you see, read the thread.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 04:53 AM
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I have the Advance, converted to tail dragger. It is fun to fly, and pretty mellow on low rate. I'd go 25 motor and 3 cell to keep it lighter if you go that route. More of a low wing trainer/sport plane, not 3d.

I also have the Carbon Z Yak. It flies well, but doesn't have that light, easy to do high alpha stuff feel. Other downside is the price. Coulda built an extreme flight with cheap motor, but the advantage is parts can be replaced easily and reasonably priced.

Two other sport planes I have and like:

GP electro stick- flies very well, though I would prefer more aileron authority.

Handy King or smaller Handy Man. Great knife edge, and fun to snap roll, fun on windy days. Pretty tough. Reasonable price. Can be quite tame on low rates.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 05:07 AM
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I have the Advance, converted to tail dragger. It is fun to fly, and pretty mellow on low rate. I'd go 25 motor and 3 cell to keep it lighter if you go that route. More of a low wing trainer/sport plane, not 3d.

I also have the Carbon Z Yak. It flies well, but doesn't have that light, easy to do high alpha stuff feel. Other downside is the price. Coulda built an extreme flight with cheap motor, but the advantage is parts can be replaced easily and reasonably priced.

Two other sport planes I have and like:

GP electro stick- flies very well, though I would prefer more aileron authority.

Handy King or smaller Handy Man. Great knife edge, and fun to snap roll, fun on windy days. Pretty tough. Reasonable price. Can be quite tame on low rates.
Thanks for that, i was also looking at the carbon z yak, i will look at the others too, but thats the idea - a low wing trainer sounds good.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 05:08 AM
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From the HK AUS warehouse: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...obatic_3D.html

You should find something in there that looks interesting, and most have at least some reviews good and bad.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 05:27 AM
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GWS Formosa. A bit quirky to build, but flies a treat. A classic mini-pattern plane. Won't break the bank, either.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 10:32 AM
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Don't be afraid of balsa. It's actually quite tough, it doesn't just shatter. Often I find it flies MUCH better than foam does.
Plus 90% of the time if you crash it, a little time spent repairing it and you can't even tell it had been crashed, as opposed to foam which, although it'll break less and be more quickly repairable, starts looking really bad after a few good crashes.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 01:10 PM
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Have a look through the - 3D Foamies forum , - but click on the tiny 'paperclip' symbol at the end of a thread title first, it allows you to see just the pictures in the thread.
Then if you like what you see, read the thread.
Wow, i learnt something new again, the paperclip symbol makes everything so much easier.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 01:57 PM
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Have you seen the Flyzone Millennium Master? Nice foam sport plane with trike gear. I just got one but haven't put it in the air yet.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1703003

RX-ready version is on sale for $89 'til the end of the month at Tower, and they ship internationally.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 10:32 PM
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Hi all, i am starting to look into a new plane, i have checked all the sites but without anyones real world experience to go by i feel a bit lost.
What i have been flying lately is - fun cub, xeno, HK mini swift and a couple of scratchbuilds. What i am after is a predictable and proven sport type plane to step up to, i have been recommended a parkzone t28 and p51 but to be honest i really like the looks and ability of the edges/yaks/extras etc. I am looking for something foam and something i can handle, i dont think i could do 3d yet so is there a in between plane. I also really like the look of the eflite advance 25e - but it is balsa.
So any suggestions,
Thanks.
Mick.

Edit: I am in Australia
Just a couple months after i started flying i picked up a park zone thunderbolt, it was an absolute hoot, lots of fun. Having said that, you can pick up an equivalent warbird from HK for half the price, including shipping.
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 12:24 AM
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GWS Formosa. A bit quirky to build, but flies a treat. A classic mini-pattern plane. Won't break the bank, either.
I like this and the price tag too, i am also starting to like the look of muliplex acromaster - a bit pricey but thats ok.
I will keep searching, preferably for something with a nice detailed finish to it, this will be like a prize for me - once i convince the household finance partner
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 09:31 PM
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One of my favorite pattern/parkflyers is the Hacker SuperZoom and bigger.
I have several of them as well as dozens of other EPP planes.
There sold as 3d planes, but set-up with less throws, I've had kids able to fly them after a couple flights on the trainer.
The midwing design flys truer and a bit more stable than a low wing.
Being EPP, they are tuff, and repair alot easier than most.
If set-up light, they'll fly in a small area and land slow enough to catch.
The full airfoil wing does very well in over 20mph winds.
There perty easy to assemble.
They will take many different motors, depending on how much power you want.

The one I'm flying now, is built lite, 1000mm wing, 10.5ozs, with only a $8.00 24g outrunner on it, but will hand launch straight up!.
They are mostly painted profile fuselages, but they do make a nice looking full fuselage all out of EPP.
I've had several of the Formosa's, but the SuperZoom is my current favorite.
There's several on Ebay for sale and they come out of Europe.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hacker-Super...item2a264e5e93

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hacker-Extra...item2a1953de16
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:02 AM
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