HobbyKing.com New Products Flash Sale
Reply
Thread Tools
Old Oct 08, 2012, 08:00 PM
Tuguegarao City Philippines
xtian3188's Avatar
Joined Sep 2012
375 Posts
Question
from syma s033g co-axial to KDS 450qs

hi there co pilots. i thinking of buying my first 6ch CP 450 heli and im wondering if i can fly one. i've been flying my co-ax heli for a month now and got bored. are there any 450 cp heli pilot out there that learned to fly one without the aid of simulator? i'd rather invest the cost of simulator to get a good cp heli. and btw, is kds 450qs a good one? cant find a good review (english) on it. alishanmao's review is too brief. thanks.i hope profesional pilots out here can give me some advise.
xtian3188 is offline Find More Posts by xtian3188
Reply With Quote
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Old Oct 08, 2012, 08:05 PM
Cranky old fart
Balr14's Avatar
Germantown, WI.
Joined Oct 2007
21,486 Posts
A Syma 3 channel coax to a CP heli is a huge step. It's worse than no experience because what it taught you is wrong.
Balr14 is offline Find More Posts by Balr14
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 08, 2012, 08:18 PM
Tuguegarao City Philippines
xtian3188's Avatar
Joined Sep 2012
375 Posts
i also did research on many things about it like pitch and throttle curve, idle up, swash movement. i think i understand more its control rather than actually flying it because i never flew one yet.
xtian3188 is offline Find More Posts by xtian3188
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 09, 2012, 02:11 AM
Cranky old fart
Balr14's Avatar
Germantown, WI.
Joined Oct 2007
21,486 Posts
You still have less than no experience. You will crash within 30 seconds. Buy something like a WL Toys V911 or V929 quad. At least get a little useful experience.
Balr14 is offline Find More Posts by Balr14
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 09, 2012, 07:17 AM
Tuguegarao City Philippines
xtian3188's Avatar
Joined Sep 2012
375 Posts
maybe your right but i haven't try flying one yet. I'll let you know weather I'll crash within 30 seconds. my 450 will arrive after 3 weeks. i also ordered training gear btw.
xtian3188 is offline Find More Posts by xtian3188
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 09, 2012, 11:10 AM
Cranky old fart
Balr14's Avatar
Germantown, WI.
Joined Oct 2007
21,486 Posts
Well, it will certainly be interesting! Be sure to keep us posted, good or bad. Please remember the channel assignments are not the same as your 3 channel. That's the costs most people who start with 3 channels the most.
Balr14 is offline Find More Posts by Balr14
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 09, 2012, 08:12 PM
Tuguegarao City Philippines
xtian3188's Avatar
Joined Sep 2012
375 Posts
according to what i observed, controls are slightly similar. throttle/pitch and yaw at left stick, and forward/backward and roll at right stick (depends on what mode). its just that the yaw is at the right stick in a 3ch heli and doesn't have a roll. its just a matter of knowing what stick movement does to the movement of the heli itself.

I need to search more information on the toggle switches located at the upper corners of the transmitter.
xtian3188 is offline Find More Posts by xtian3188
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 11, 2012, 04:06 PM
My other addiction!
norcalheli's Avatar
Marysville, Ca., US
Joined Jan 2007
1,748 Posts
Please, please, please have someone video your first flight and post it here!! We all would like to see your transition into CP helis.
norcalheli is offline Find More Posts by norcalheli
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 11, 2012, 07:54 PM
Different fly 4 different guy
gordonzo's Avatar
Joined Jan 2011
1,897 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by xtian3188 View Post
according to what i observed, controls are slightly similar. throttle/pitch and yaw at left stick, and forward/backward and roll at right stick (depends on what mode). its just that the yaw is at the right stick in a 3ch heli and doesn't have a roll. its just a matter of knowing what stick movement does to the movement of the heli itself.

I need to search more information on the toggle switches located at the upper corners of the transmitter.
You appear to be very confident. Sounds like you have an engineering or techical background? In this case you might find knowledge is a poor substitute for experience.

You will now simultaneously be managing different channel assignments, much much quicker movement, no self-stabilizing after each stick input with very little time to think or react. Then add large high speed rotating blades . . .

I had lots of flights on fixed pitch such as Solo Pro 260/328/228, F45 and v911. My first flight with the v929 quad, which also is quick and non self-stabilizing, was a quite an eye opener - manageable and relatively safe and crash resistant, but surprising different. Once I get totally comfortable with the quad I will get a small cp.

regards . . . g
gordonzo is offline Find More Posts by gordonzo
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 11, 2012, 08:22 PM
Tuguegarao City Philippines
xtian3188's Avatar
Joined Sep 2012
375 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by norcalheli View Post
Please, please, please have someone video your first flight and post it here!! We all would like to see your transition into CP helis.
weather good or bad, I will post it here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gordonzo View Post
Sounds like you have an engineering or techical background?
yep, licensed electronics engineer. sensitivity of the controls can be decreased in EPA and EXP.
xtian3188 is offline Find More Posts by xtian3188
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 13, 2012, 12:43 AM
My goal is fly more crash less
United States, DC, Washington
Joined Jul 2012
75 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by norcalheli View Post
Please, please, please have someone video your first flight and post it here!! We all would like to see your transition into CP helis.
Three weeks can't come soon enough.

I'm still learning with my V911 and DH9116 after becoming a "Pro" on my Syma S32G and 107G's
Obiorion is offline Find More Posts by Obiorion
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 13, 2012, 12:57 AM
Registered User
Philippines, Calabarzon, San Pedro
Joined Jul 2012
4,483 Posts
A coax -> 450 class? Wow! This i gotta see!
Hajile is offline Find More Posts by Hajile
RCG Plus Member
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 13, 2012, 04:52 AM
Still a N00B
lebaez's Avatar
United States, TX, Odessa
Joined Mar 2012
95 Posts
Don't let them get you down. John Salt from rchelicopterfun.com has always said the best thing to train on is a 450 size heli with the proper set up and tamed down for a beginner. If you go to his website. he has a training session with 10 lessons to get you hovering safely. If you follow his instructions, you should be able to hover the helicopter without crashing it. Also check out the RADDS School of rotary flight and do those 10 lessons. Both of these trainings teach you basic controls and the goal is to get you to hover your CP heli without any damage to you or to the heli. All I'm saying is it can be done, but have to accept that what you learned with the coax is not going to transfer to a collective pitch helicopter. you may truly be worse off, that I don't know.
Good luck though, do let us know how you do, but be patient with yourself and take the time necessary to set up the bird properly, to tame down the controls and to do the lessons until you learn them.

Lui
lebaez is offline Find More Posts by lebaez
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 13, 2012, 07:55 PM
Tuguegarao City Philippines
xtian3188's Avatar
Joined Sep 2012
375 Posts
i already watch those videos from day 1 to 10 and that convinced me to skip sims and fp's. I'll be blaming him if my first 450 crashes. just kidding.
xtian3188 is offline Find More Posts by xtian3188
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 13, 2012, 07:59 PM
Tuguegarao City Philippines
xtian3188's Avatar
Joined Sep 2012
375 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hajile View Post
A coax -> 450 class? Wow! This i gotta see!
sir ako yung ka PM mo sa sulit. after 2 weeks pa daw mag kaka stock ng kds sa lowdog. may time pa para makapag ipon ng lakas ng loob.
xtian3188 is offline Find More Posts by xtian3188
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Discussion Syma S033G Convert from coaxial to non coaxial Kenwhite23 Beginner Training Area (Heli-Electric) 13 Apr 17, 2014 04:01 PM
Discussion KDS Innova 450QS FyreSG Mini Helis 23 Mar 18, 2014 11:41 AM
Discussion Selling KDS 450QS RTF Downtownboy85 Singapore 1 Sep 12, 2013 11:37 PM
Discussion Some SYMA s033G modifications from Holland Turin Electric Heli Talk 28 Oct 04, 2012 03:00 PM
Video Review! Biggest Syma S033G Co-axial RC Electric Helicopter w/ LED Lights & Gyroscope thercguy Electric Heli Talk 4 Oct 21, 2011 05:08 PM