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Old Jan 10, 2015, 11:55 PM
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2015 8.5mm Micro FPV Shootout

So as we all know micro FPV is quickly catching up to mini FPV, I know this is all happening too fast. So in my obsessive compulsive way I decided to seek out every possible way to put together the highest performing micro quad to date. Since '13 I've been building micro fpv nanoqx's and then got swept away in mini h quads. 2015 I decided no more mini's for me and things like the alienwii brought me back to the micros, after some digging I found suitable specs for 8.5mm build. I found a few under 10g frames put chaoli 15's on there with the alienwii and woowee the quad is rocketship, with a 750mah and AUW of 50g's the quad flies amazing motors stay cool and all is great. Now the FPV builds begins weight goes up to 58-60 g's performance is still there but drops dramatically after a few minuets, yes 7 min flights can be achieved before i hit 3.7 volts but the last 4 mins I dont have that punch needed to be racing high speed and get out of trouble. I digress you can use a lighter battery/500mah but flight time is 4 mins, so I'll deal with the 750's and sluggish latter 1/2 of flights until the next evolution. So now the object is to put together the lightest/ for flight performance and motor life/ longest range in video and rc control micro AUW under 60g's quad with the props out of view as much as possible .

now so far we have a huge rundown of parts and combos to make to create the best setup. I'll break it down...

Frames
Picnic quad integrated
PFG 110mm
Dreamcatcher FPV
carbon micro h
wsk 110
smiley
Sosx

Motors
Chaoli 15
hubsan

Flight Controller
Alienwii 3.4g
Brotronics Lulfro 2.56g / 3.1g with battery plug

Camera
1g fpv hobby 70mA
RMRC pico
BG hd 160-200ma
BG 1/4 hd 80mA
Hubsan
VA1100

Lenses
FPVhobby
BG wide angle
d-lens

Video TX
RMRC Pico 1280 100mA
GetFPV mini 200mw 1258/1280
5.8 1.9 w/cloverleaf 150mAh (min) – 280mAh (max)
bg200mw 170ma 2.3 gr 1.1 without metal cover.
bg600mw 500ma 3.9g
58ghz-200mw-5v
Altitude RC

Video RX
lazerbgc 1.3
generic 1.3
autoscan 5.8

Antenna
hk cloverleaf
fpv 1g cloverleaf

Regulators
Pololu 5v step up
Pololu adjustable
FPVhobby

As to not overload the variables I will be using 750 nanotech's and hubsan props only.
More to come with an official micro quad showdown website soon, any input would be great as well...
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 02:05 AM
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So as we all know micro FPV is quickly catching up to mini FPV, I know this is all happening too fast. So in my obsessive compulsive way I decided to seek out every possible way to put together the highest performing micro quad to date. Since '13 I've been building micro fpv nanoqx's and then got swept away in mini h quads. 2015 I decided no more mini's for me and things like the alienwii brought me back to the micros, after some digging I found suitable specs for 8.5mm build. I found a few under 10g frames put chaoli 15's on there with the alienwii and woowee the quad is rocketship, with a 750mah and AUW of 50g's the quad flies amazing motors stay cool and all is great. Now the FPV builds begins weight goes up to 58-60 g's performance is still there but drops dramatically after a few minuets, yes 7 min flights can be achieved before i hit 3.7 volts but the last 4 mins I dont have that punch needed to be racing high speed and get out of trouble. I digress you can use a lighter battery/500mah but flight time is 4 mins, so I'll deal with the 750's and sluggish latter 1/2 of flights until the next evolution. So now the object is to put together the lightest/ for flight performance and motor life/ longest range in video and rc control micro AUW under 60g's quad with the props out of view as much as possible .

now so far we have a huge rundown of parts and combos to make to create the best setup. I'll break it down...

Frames
Picnic quad integrated
PFG 110mm
Dreamcatcher FPV

Motors
Chaoli 15
hubsan

Flight Controller
Alienwii
Brotronics Lulfro

Camera
1g fpv hobby 70mA
RMRC pico
BG hd 160-200ma
BG 1/4 hd 80mA
Hubsan

Lenses
FPVhobby
BG wide angle
d-lens

Video TX
RMRC Pico 1280 100mA
GetFPV mini 200mw 1258/1280
5.8 1.9 w/cloverleaf 150mAh (min) 280mAh (max)
bg200mw 170ma
bg600mw 500ma

Video RX
lazerbgc 1.3
generic 1.3
autoscan 5.8

Antenna
hk cloverleaf
fpv 1g cloverleaf

Regulators
Pololu
FPVhobby

More to come with an official micro quad showdown website soon, any input would be great as well...
This list is great .... you pick up best current options
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 02:20 AM
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This list is great .... you pick up best current options
I'm glad you like it, you def where a big help in researching a lot of it! Theres alot of micro FPV stuff, I'm gonna limit this contest to DIY/modded 8.5mm direct drive builds and see whats the most durable, agile, longest range, most flight time setup.
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 02:37 AM
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Great timing! I just decided today to build a micro for indoor/outdoor flying during the winter. This thread will help tons.

So far, I've picked:

Picnic quad integrated 120mm
8.5mm Chaoli motors (17's)
Brotronics FC
Husban X4 props
Nanotech 1s 500mAh batteries
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 02:38 AM
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addition to your lists:
Frame:
- Micro H-Quad from smartshapes (ebay) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-H-Quad...-/191364703204

Motor:
- cheap 8.5mm motor from BG (USD 5.42 a pair of 2) http://www.banggood.com/2-X-8x20mm-M...r-p-87683.html

Propeller:
- Hubsan Props from BG (USD 1.3 per set of 4) http://www.banggood.com/Upgraded-Hub...t-p-81701.html
- Rolling Spider Props from GLB (USD 3.2 per set of 4) http://www.goodluckbuy.com/parrot-mi...de-2-pair.html

Flight Controller:
- Hubsan X4 (combined with hobby grade TX, ie: SpyHawk, Spektrum, Taranis, Devo 10 etc) http://www.banggood.com/Hubsan-X4-H1...3-p-87802.html

video TX:
- altituderc nano http://www.readymaderc.com/store/ind...oducts_id=2284
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 02:43 AM
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Maybe I would add the Flysight TX58200M http://www.rangevideo.com/58-ghz/10-...er-module.html for me much better and cleaner than the TS5823. The mini-aomway 200mW http://www.banggood.com/AOMWAY-FPV-5...-p-947147.html is excellent too but more heavier
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 03:00 AM
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very nice suggestions, I will add but to test I will need some donations . So far I'm posting what I have, I have a wishlist too, but I need sponsorship. There are so many combinations here I want to limit it to 5 or six...
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 07:42 AM
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Consider also the 5813 vTx.
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 01:27 PM
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Bangkomit: How do you bind a Taranis to a Hubsan X4 controller ?
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 01:50 PM
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I was actually thinking about this myself and wondered if one of these micro quads could carry this Spektrum Ultra Micro Camera

http://www.horizonhobby.com/SPMVA110...CYaxoCWCPw_wcB
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 01:55 PM
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It already does !

http://www.horizonhobby.com/nano-qx-...eadset-blh7280
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 02:06 PM
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oh that's awesome but another idea i had was to use the Carbon Micro-H with the Super X fc,esc,and motors + the Spektrum Ultra Micro
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 08:29 PM
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My HQuad comes in at a portly 63g AUW. Flies nicely though but flight times are short. I'm using this vtx http://fpvhobby.com/229-new-mini-58-...fatshark-.html but I'm not impressed with the range thus far. No point in FPV if the range is less than 10m.
Also one consideration to take into account. IMHO FPV frames need to be strong or you'll spend more time repairing the frame than flying.
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 09:12 PM
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Bangkomit: How do you bind a Taranis to a Hubsan X4 controller ?
I dont have Taranis, but this module should do the job for your taranis
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2256459
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 09:35 PM
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None of my current builds are over 60g's, this def helps with durability, any more weight and the flight times are just too short for me/ I can't get out of trouble fast enough(not enough thrust). As far as the FPVhobby 1.9g VTX 10m is terrible, I do not like to hear that. My current best setup I can do 150m with the getfpv 1258/1280 mimi 200mw. So far that seems to be a good distance that will be a minimum goal for the best micro fpv setup. I got word from CID54 the the Micro quad Wsk 110 will be avail to print soon so that will be an interesting frame to test @34g's AUW, durability is the real question. So far my PFG 110mm and the picnic quad have stood up to abuse. Heres a sample from the PFG frame.
ps I'm keeping this test to 8.5mm brushed direct drive builds only.

getfpv mini 200mw 1280/1258 test 2 (4 min 18 sec)
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