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Old Apr 13, 2014, 08:41 PM
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I still have my Babcock ''magic carpit'' single channel gear complete with escapement and engine control. Last used in a Debolt ''Live wire trainer''. The best part is having both boat kits that Babcock issued, the North Star trawler and the ''LIL BREEZE'' yacht.
I also have my Babcock "Magic Carpet" single channel gear with the escapement but no engine control. I bought it in the mid 1950's to use on my boats I started building after crashing to many aircraft. I was never able to get the Babcock system working, took it to the electrons wizard in my Electrical Technology class in junior college, he couldn't make it work either. Mine is still in the original boxes, with original instructions and schematics. I built 4 boat models from 1952 to 1955, 3 of which I still have. I have restored those 3 and designed and built a hydroplane similar to the first boat I built which was a single step hydro. The new model is a three point hydro, 2 sponsons and the motor. I tried an electric model of an Evinrude motor, which I still have, it was SLOW, I wanted FAST. Then I found K & B Sea Furys, .049 nitro engines that powered my boats the way I wanted them to go. I would go out on lakes in upstate NY, row to the center, start the motors set in a large diameter circle and let them go. It was a lot of fun seeing those 3 boats flying across a mirror lake surface. I still have all my K & B engines, plus many more that I have acquired through the magic of eBay, and my boats. I have a thread on RCGroups Scale Boats where I have posted some photos of the old gear, not the Babcock, I may start a thread on this site which I only recently found, and post some photos of all my vintage boat equipment. I am heavy into a Dumas Trojan F31 model, also putting the finishing touches on a Dumas 1949 Racing Runabout and a Schiada 20 SS which I bought plans for and am building from scratch. I have threads for all three of the current models on the Scale Boat site. Nice to find someone who has some of the vintage gear left.

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Old Apr 14, 2014, 04:07 PM
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I think you are wasting time on the old RC gear when you can buy new 2.4GHz systems for some $70 including transmitter, receiver and servos. Old RC gear sells cheap even to collectors. For glow engine powered boats you won't much else. For electric powered boats you will need an electronic speed control matched to the electric motor (brush type or brushless)
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:04 AM
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I think you are wasting time on the old RC gear when you can buy new 2.4GHz systems for some $70 including transmitter, receiver and servos. Old RC gear sells cheap even to collectors. For glow engine powered boats you won't much else. For electric powered boats you will need an electronic speed control matched to the electric motor (brush type or brushless)

I wouldn't like to stop people reviving all the old kit and re-learning all the old electro-mechanical skills that went with operating it. But it will always be a specialist field and inherently less safe than using modern kit.

Consequently, if you're going to operate a 1950s/60s type system, remember to do lots of checking and tuning, and find a fairly deserted place where interference or sudden unexplained loss of control aren't going to cause major safety problems.

If you just want the single-channel experience without the difficulty of keeping a drifting circuit in tune and bending complex wire shapes, then go to the site below and get an emulator...

http://www.singlechannel.co.uk
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Old Jul 01, 2014, 03:07 PM
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Old boat and radio

I find it's a lot of fun to bring my 1st boat out. Got the kit in 1952 finished it in 55. I was 6 years old. I still run it wiht a radio I purchased inn 1956. An F&M Electronics single channel. I still use the Boat-a-Matic actuator. This gives me left and right steering and a motor control, no speed control. All done with 1 button. Steering was sequential as was the motor control. So steering was hold button rudder turns let go back to straight, hold again rudder turns other way, let go back to straight. Motor control was blip button motor starts, blip motor stops, blip motor runs backward, blip stop.
I cleaned, replaced the motor and repaired the model about 14 years ago.
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Old Jul 06, 2014, 05:14 AM
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I find it's a lot of fun to bring my 1st boat out. Got the kit in 1952 finished it in 55. I was 6 years old. I still run it wiht a radio I purchased inn 1956. An F&M Electronics single channel. I still use the Boat-a-Matic actuator. This gives me left and right steering and a motor control, no speed control. All done with 1 button. Steering was sequential as was the motor control. So steering was hold button rudder turns let go back to straight, hold again rudder turns other way, let go back to straight. Motor control was blip button motor starts, blip motor stops, blip motor runs backward, blip stop.
I cleaned, replaced the motor and repaired the model about 14 years ago.
That's quite an endorsement of that manufacturers kit! I wonder how many modern plastic radios will be operating in 60 years time?

Incidentally, I have a couple of Graupner KineMatic actuators - I wonder if I can set up a modern system using them....
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 05:43 PM
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It is fun. I still have all my original equipment. Including the tube receiver I built in 1953. It still works. I now use it during lectures and demos.
The receiver was in Popular mechanics or Popular Science. They gave a list of components and you could send for the PC board. My father sent for the bard and we went to Lafayette electronics to but the components. My uncle Mike (sisters god father) had showed me how to solder. So he would check my placement and then I would solder.
Can you picture some of these guys building their radios. Let alone one that is 4 x 6 inches and requires 2- 67volt and a 1.5 volt batteries
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