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Old Dec 27, 2012, 07:59 PM
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Hydrogen and aircraft....

OK class lets say thr word.... Hindenberg....
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 09:18 PM
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Found in and scanned from Tailspin, March/April 2000. The plan was sent in to Tailspin by Dave Stott, who wrote:
"This is a good bus, as I had one in the air some years back. I'm not absolutely sure, but I probably increased the stab area. It looked odd, when you peered through the cabin windows, to see basic fuselage framework passing by, but not touching the clear window panes. Didn't hurt the model's flying ability. The copy is as good as I could get off the old pulp paper original. I remember the day I bought the kit at Eastern Hardware. They carried Burd and Guillow Kits exclusively."
I just couldn't help myself. The damn thing looked so interesting that I wasted a half a day piecing together the Burd Luscombe Phantom plan. It was missing a nice gap in the middle that I had to rebuild and that took some time. Some clean-up and piddling work and here is is, all in one piece.

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Old Dec 27, 2012, 09:55 PM
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I just couldn't help myself. The damn thing looked so interesting that I wasted a half a day piecing together the Burd Luscombe Phantom plan. It was missing a nice gap in the middle that I had to rebuild and that took some time. Some clean-up and piddling work and here is is, all in one piece.

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Glad you liked it. But now I'll be tempted to spend half a day scanning in a couple of other things. I'd spend more time cleaning them up, but I have so many things to scan! Maybe 20 years of FAC news and a few other newsletters, and that book, and a few OLD magazines. Pretty soon I will have that whole issue of Air Trails scanned.

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I suspect that if one thought for a long time about how to do it, was careful, and did it outside on a very humid day right after a rain storm, you could get the hydrogen together without too much risk to life and limb. Especially if you could find anti static balloons and gloves. Inside, I could see a good leak blowing out all the windows, at minimum. I've seen acetylene and air go off with great energy, outside, on a long ago July 4th. This ought to be similar.
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 09:58 PM
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Planeman and Lincoln,
Thanks! It's a beautiful plan and I appreciate your efforts. I've been thinking about doing a very-light RC Mr. Mulligan with about 30-in span. But I think the Luscombe Phantom, scaled 200%, might scratch the itch.

Very timely submissions for me and greatly appreciated.
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 10:23 PM
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FWIW I used to make hydrogen all the time when i was younger.
Very easy to do.

I did have a couple of incidents though, probably lucky I didn't injure myself.
One in particular scared the out of me.

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Old Dec 27, 2012, 11:00 PM
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OK class lets say thr word.... Hindenberg....
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In correct german: Hindenburg.
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 11:03 PM
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I just couldn't help myself. The damn thing looked so interesting that I wasted a half a day piecing together the Burd Luscombe Phantom plan. It was missing a nice gap in the middle that I had to rebuild and that took some time. Some clean-up and piddling work and here is is, all in one piece.

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C'mon, Rufus... You call that a waste of time? With this quality of work? Nooooot at all!
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 12:40 AM
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Planeman and Lincoln,
Thanks! It's a beautiful plan and I appreciate your efforts. I've been thinking about doing a very-light RC Mr. Mulligan with about 30-in span. But I think the Luscombe Phantom, scaled 200%, might scratch the itch.

Very timely submissions for me and greatly appreciated.
David
Well, there are plenty of Mr. Mulligan plans around. For instance, this one:
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2301
and a larger one:
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=628
And larger Phantoms:
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=450
http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/...88&mode=search

I'm sure either way would be a great project.
Would love to see someone show up at the field with one of these (56 inch span):
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/download_...an.asp?ID=1525
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:19 AM
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Does anyone happen to have a scan of a Civy Boy 24, 31 or 36? Any one of them would do.
I've got the 74" version but want to build a small one.
Did you ever find plans for this?

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Old Dec 28, 2012, 12:57 PM
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No sir, not yet. This is one of my bucket list builds. As I stated, I already have the 74" but would love to add the "little" guys to the fold.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 01:02 PM
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I guess I missed the original question, Tri-Pacer

I have all three. Can copy

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Old Dec 28, 2012, 03:13 PM
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No sir, not yet. This is one of my bucket list builds. As I stated, I already have the 74" but would love to add the "little" guys to the fold.
I can help you out with the 36" version. Maybe Applehoney can assist if you need a smaller one.

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Old Dec 28, 2012, 03:37 PM
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FWIW I used to make hydrogen all the time when i was younger.
Very easy to do.

I did have a couple of incidents though, probably lucky I didn't injure myself.
One in particular scared the out of me.

Pat MacKenzie
I remember making hydrogen in high school chemistry class. We filled small bags with it and then ignited them. The bag with 100% hydrogen didn't burn very violently. The bag with 50% hydrogen, 50% air made a nice bang.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 03:59 PM
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Bingo!!! Thanks Wayne, that is perfect! This one's going on the winter building board for sure.
Also, thanks for the offer Jim, much appreciated.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 10:08 PM
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Civy Boy

That is a pretty little model. No mention of engine size on plan but presume a Cox 049 would do the job. Have downloaded plan to put in the 'one day' list which continues to lengthen. Allen
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