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Old Jul 19, 2014, 09:25 PM
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The FAA needs our input!

The new rules, if adopted, will severely limit the flying of RC sailplanes of all types.
Very few of us have commented and the deadline is fast approaching.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorym...limit-flights/
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Old Jul 19, 2014, 09:34 PM
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Guys, please make your voices heard! I would love to keep being able to come to the US and enjoy flying with all you guys
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Old Jul 19, 2014, 09:49 PM
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I'd rather risk sailplane interference, than help defend drones.

Just my opinion.
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Old Jul 19, 2014, 10:05 PM
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From the article (only), it seems that it will also include all aspects of RC flying? I have not read into this issue deeply, sorry.

Luckily over here in the land of the wild anything and everything is OK
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Old Jul 19, 2014, 10:12 PM
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Gary, part of the "interference" of which you speak is the intent by the FAA to limit all RC aircraft--including sailplanes--to a maximum of 400 feet AGL. This is not just near airports. It's nationwide.
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Old Jul 19, 2014, 10:16 PM
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Perhaps, but it's the drones that have caused the problem. And will remain the problem.
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Old Jul 19, 2014, 11:12 PM
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Gary, part of the "interference" of which you speak is the intent by the FAA to limit all RC aircraft--including sailplanes--to a maximum of 400 feet AGL. This is not just near airports. It's nationwide.
Is this so the Police & Govm't drones can have the airspace between 400 & 1000'AGL, and not have to worry about our toys getting in the way?

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Old Jul 19, 2014, 11:16 PM
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I submitted my concerns against the FAA rules several times. I hope you all do the same.

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Old Jul 20, 2014, 05:30 AM
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for me, it is the issue of the FAA reinterpreting the rules that Congress has already made, and that Congress and the FAA and the AMA have already decided on.

if you support a government agency to arbitrarily reinterpret the rules that Congress has made, then sit back, watch, and do nothing.
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Old Jul 20, 2014, 05:48 AM
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Alright, Kenny.... I commented. Thanks for the heads up.

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Old Jul 20, 2014, 09:19 AM
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Gary, part of the "interference" of which you speak is the intent by the FAA to limit all RC aircraft--including sailplanes--to a maximum of 400 feet AGL. This is not just near airports. It's nationwide.
It's always been 400' AGL ceiling for all RC aircraft. Piloted planes have a minimum of 500' AGL. This provides a 100' separation to keep things safe.


Us RC sailplane drivers just haven't been adhering to the letter of the law all these years.
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Old Jul 20, 2014, 10:06 AM
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I've never flown 399 feet AGL.
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Old Jul 20, 2014, 11:06 AM
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I'd rather risk sailplane interference, than help defend drones.

Just my opinion.
That's not a choice that you are going to be able to make. The FAA is dumping us all in the same bucket. But there is strength in numbers, so parsing the argument is not to your benefit.
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Old Jul 20, 2014, 11:12 AM
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It was Senator Sherrod Brown from Ohio that sponsored the FAA Modernization Act of 2012. I mention this because he was the one that included the 'model airplane exclusion' portion that forbad the FAA from making rules governing model aircraft. Now the FAA is trying to redefine what a model airplane is, in order to reclassify them for their own purposes and do an end run around the senator.

Fortunately, Senator Brown is a very good senator and very active in civil liberties. I strongly suggest that you drop by his website and leave him a message, urging him to act:

http://www.brown.senate.gov/contact

Seriously, folks. If we don't do it, who will?
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Old Jul 20, 2014, 12:06 PM
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This could change rc soaring and F3x soaring events if we need to maintain a 400ft ceiling. Hand launch would be favorable and maybe even 1M span if 400' becomes the limiting factor.

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