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Old Jan 27, 2013, 05:35 PM
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Nosen Kit Mister Mulligan, Help

Seeking information about the Nosen kit Mister Mulligan. I recently bought one that has been built and completely finished, less engine and servos. The builder said the model was set up for DA 56. The work appears to be first rate, I am very pleased with what I see. What I would to know is about flying characteristic, power requirements, servo requirements and any experiences with this airplane.

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Old Jan 27, 2013, 05:53 PM
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I have one too, it was given to me for fixing an engine. It needs a complete refurbishing to get back in the air. I plan on running a G-62 in mine. It will need weight up front to balance anyway and I'm sure I'll need more than the G-62 weighs. I'm not familiar with that size engine in the DA line but I'm assuming you're talking about 55cc or 60cc. Either of those sizes should work fine. I will be setting my CG at about 28% wing cord since its pretty much a constant cord wing. Based on other planes I've flown, built like this with a LOT of frontal area, I have no doubt it will slow down like throwing a boat anchor out when you throttle back to idle so I'll land with about 1/4 throttle or so on the maiden. Other than that, I cant help you on flight characteristics. I'll be watching for other comments here.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:12 PM
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Erwin, Thanks for your response and information, it will be helpful. Looking forward to the first flight.

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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:22 PM
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I just remembered many years back I new a guy that bought a built one at a swap meet and put a 80cc in it. He flew it like a racer, which the Mulligan DID do in the golden age. That would be a hoot, seeing a fat plane screaming down the runway on a low pass.
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Old Feb 02, 2013, 05:41 PM
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Hi guys, I have an actual unbuilt kit by Bud Nosen of this airplane, so if anyone wishes any specific info please let me know. I will add that the kit says it is for a .60 2 cycle, but I think this would be a little under powered. Sorry this kit is not for sale, planning on building it later this year.

However my offer stands.

may be best to send me a PM as I am not often in this forum though I have an interest here.

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Old Feb 02, 2013, 07:12 PM
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I wonder if, when running a .60 2-stroke it was ment with a gear reduction system. I cant see the prop getting out past the cowl with a .60.
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Old Feb 03, 2013, 08:01 AM
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Back in the day, gear reduction systems were common on large models. Once in a while, you'll see an old Dubro unit for sale.

Nosen airframes were designed with them in mind.
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Old Feb 03, 2013, 08:41 AM
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Some people CAN........

A G-62 would be a lot of power for a Mulligan.The 80 could turn a scale diameter prop and look awesome.

Work up the speed in increments, watching for rudder and elevator flutter.(they both would).

One I saw lost the entire stab, rolled inverted, and made a nice inverted landing.

I'd recommend some sheeting as reinforcement along the sides and bottom of the fuse.

If you have ,or can get a DuBro belt prop reduction,and install modern belts, they are still an interesting machine.

Please don't forget the planes were designed for about 50 to 60 miles per hour.
They MAY stay together, but be aware.....
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Old Feb 04, 2013, 04:16 PM
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Guys, I did get some pictures of the Mr. Mulligan today, sorry about the mess in the garage. I have a DLE 55, Hitec 645 servos on the way, hopefully I'll have it flying by spring. I hope I can post these pictures.
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Old Feb 04, 2013, 09:24 PM
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GREAT LOOKING AIRPLANE!!!!, hey if you were close to me I might consider a swap, my kit for your plane....

That is a trult beautiful looking airplane.

However beware of what Earl said about flutter. Keep your airspeed low. I would NOT suggest that you try to fly this airplane like a racer. Yes I know it was designed as a racing airplane, but consider the maximum airspeed achieved by the full size.

This is an airplane for just looking pretty and nostalgic as it flies around the sky.

Have fun and fly safe.

Sackie (hope mine looks as great as your does when I have completed it)
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Old Feb 05, 2013, 10:52 AM
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Mr. Mulligan

Rich, This is a really fine looking Mulligan build. It looks like the original wing attachment is preserved (dowels) have you looked to see if the wings fit repeatably and with the same incidence, side to side? Although my kit was allegedly a Bud Nosen kit (not A&A Industries) the balsa and ply for the wings, particularly the die cutting for the wing dowels is crude. I see in other builds folks are using more modern wing tubes. I am inclined to build a jig and line drill the balsa and ply for the dowels all at the same time. Incidentally the plans call for 0° diheadral but the instructions in the kit mention that a true 0 makes the wings look like they are drooping and recommends 1/2" on a side. I like the wing mounted servo's which look far superior to the linkage operated ailerons in the original design. I'll also be curious to see what modifications you have to make to the fire wall to get the engine on this plane. Keep the thread alive

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Old Feb 05, 2013, 06:17 PM
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The engine should be here in a couple days and I'll get some pictures of the engine mounting. It is what I remember, with the box arrangement, That is why I had to order a new engine. I have an Fiji 50, that seems be one of the few excellent running engines, but it would require modifying the mounting on the plane. I only put the wings on it once and it looked good. The builder told me he modified the landing gear and replaced the aluminum gear with a heavier set. They appear to have some type of spring suspension, I will call him again to find out more about the plane. Today I started mounting the servos in the tail for the elevators. So far I am very pleased with what he has done. On closer inspection, I find that he has thought out much the assembly. I'll photograph some of the changes he has made.

More to come
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Old Feb 05, 2013, 06:26 PM
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Ahhhh-that's better !

That sounds good to us....we don't want to see you disappointed...If the previous owner did some modifications, it make be perfectly safe to go fast and 'turn left'.

Cloth covering adds a lot of strength, and if he's strengthened the gear, he may have taken pains with other things also.

It sure looks nice.
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Old Mar 06, 2013, 12:00 PM
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I put a 52cc turnigy on mine and still could take more power. This plane can make a very impressive low leval tight turn that the crowd loves. I found that you have to set the thrust 2% right and down to fly. Also mix 35% rudder in the ailerons . This plane once you get set up is a blast to scream around the field. I recently decided to fly inverted and it did that well. Hammer heads are very cool with a 9' wing swinging about.
Mr Mulligans last Flight (1 min 25 sec)
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Old Mar 07, 2013, 09:26 AM
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paddles, that's a very nice video production. Excellent work.
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