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Old Jan 25, 2013, 02:43 PM
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Who funds these groups?
So, the DOD can't buy new raptors then?
Our neighboring city north little rock spent 50k on a collective system they have crash 3 times since buying it. It's now grounded officially by the FAA. Thank god too, no way I wanted that beast circling our towns. A multi I would be ok with.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 02:43 PM
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You are correct "IF" they were not hired and are taking pictures w/out permission. Unless I'm reading that wrong? I don't know about you all, but I don't go around taking pictures for free so 100% of my locations I have the permission of the land owner or agency currently managing that land/space as they are the ones who hire me.
You are right. this is a paparazzi law. It wouldnt affect most commercial.
This is Indiana right? I know california has a tough law. are these the only two states to come out with this kind of thing?
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 02:45 PM
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My concern is the TV contracts i'm staring at for the networks.... i'm not worried about the small private operation jobs where its easy to get signatures. I'm talking the news media wants us to be on call for location shooting. Thats a gold mine, but we wont be able to touch it after July.
Are you in Indiana or does AR also have new laws coming?
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 02:58 PM
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My concern is the TV contracts i'm staring at for the networks.... i'm not worried about the small private operation jobs where its easy to get signatures. I'm talking the news media wants us to be on call for location shooting. Thats a gold mine, but we wont be able to touch it after July.
Robert, that is a tough call. Looks as though July 2013 is when everything will be coming down hard on operators.

Btw, I called you about an hour ago. Call me when you are available. I left a mess. on your VM.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 03:00 PM
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Are you in Indiana or does AR also have new laws coming?
I'm in AR, however this will likely proliferate quickly as more states become privy to the FAA PRM and see that some states are implementing measures on the subject. I need to talk with my lawyer again, it could be that the "Freedom of Press" might still allow such operation for a news network. Sorry i missed ya ASC, tend to filter out of aera numbers.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 05:57 PM
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Here is a link for all AP operators that Gary Mortmer posted. It is a comment sheet to voice your opinions to the FAA about flying commercially. This is the way our voices can be heard, as the FAA isnt taking notes from RC Groups.

Thanks for the link Gary!

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1817293
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 07:20 PM
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So, the DOD can't buy new raptors then?
FAA has no regulatory or enforcement authority over military craft.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 09:16 AM
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the FAA isnt taking notes from RC Groups.
That attitude is the problem since the people doing it (flying RC AP), are RCers. Unless the FAA wants to regulate 'modelers' blindly, they need to 'take notes' from organized representatives of the people who they are attempting to bring into the NAS. It seems like they are talking to AMA just fine as I havent seen any legislation hindering their multimillion dollar commercial endeavors.

If FAA is unaware of RC AP specific safety issues and workable guidlines, all they will be able to do is throw a wet blanket over the whole thing. I refer to your Indiana introduced legislation as an example.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 10:10 AM
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Now i'm really confused. This article says I need a full scale pilots license before flying UAV AP ?
Now i havent read everything , but nowhere have i heard this.
In all the attachments in this wonderful thread, nothing mentions a pilot license being a prerequisite for UAV AP.
Well, if you look closely at the title and the FIRST one who posted on the thread, a pilot license is what this thread is about. lol

Here is a link.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1703587
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 10:22 AM
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Well, if you look closely at the title and the FIRST one who posted on the thread, a pilot license is what this thread is about. lol

Here is a link.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1703587
You failed AGAIN to SHOW ME THE STATUTE. Just admit it doesn't exist ok?
Admit your paranoid effort to scare your competition. Your user name isnt illegal is it?

I want a team like THIS for RCAP
https://library.modelaviation.com/sy...ma0113_016.jpg
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 10:41 AM
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You failed AGAIN to SHOW ME THE STATUTE. Just admit it doesn't exist ok?
Admit your paranoid effort to scare your competition. Your user name isnt illegal is it?
AerialSkyCam is trademarked and a legal entity.

If I wanted to squash competition, I would not write national publications on how to get started in aerial photography.

Here is a link of our accomplishments to the aerial photography community.

Enjoy!
http://aerialskycam.com/Press.php

Now, I ask you, what have you done to the aerial photography community?
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 11:00 AM
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AerialSkyCam is trademarked and a legal entity.

If I wanted to squash competition, I would not write national publications on how to get started in aerial photography.

Here is a link of our accomplishments to the aerial photography community.

Enjoy!
http://aerialskycam.com/Press.php

Now, I ask you, what have you done to the aerial photography community?
I am now convinced that you are slow.

Ive asked you fifteen times to name the statute you say requires one to be a "LICENSED FULL SCALE COMMERCIAL PILOT" to fly RCAP for profit.
You have come up with everything except an answer to that simple question.
You refusing to answer my ONE question calls into question the seriousness of anything you say or post. Animated gifs notwithstanding.

my most recent work : http://www.suasnews.com/2013/01/2064...doritos-drone/

i shot edited and scripted this ad. I also did some of the flying and flew the AP chase quad for shots of the "actor drone".
Been in the business 25 years.

This is something i did publicly with Homeland Security : http://wjbk.membercenter.worldnow.co...type=printable
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There would not be a petition to write to the FAA if it was totally legal.

Here is a link that you can write to the FAA and plead your case to them.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1817293

As far as Statute, it is the wording of the FAA, and you have to read between the lines. My only suggestion would be call your local Detroit FAA office, and tell them you want to fly commercially.

Tell them your business is iTV in Detroit, and that you fly over construction sites and get paid for it.

If you want, I can send the FAA the iTV Detroit, Harry Arnold, itvdetroit@gmail.com, information to help assist and get you in the air.

As I stated earlier, I am here to help.
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I am now convinced that you are slow.

Ive asked you fifteen times to name the statute you say requires one to be a "LICENSED FULL SCALE COMMERCIAL PILOT" to fly RCAP for profit.
You have come up with everything except an answer to that simple question.
You refusing to answer my ONE question calls into question the seriousness of anything you say or post. Animated gifs notwithstanding.

my most recent work : http://www.suasnews.com/2013/01/2064...doritos-drone/

i shot edited and scripted this ad. I also did some of the flying and flew the AP chase quad for shots of the "actor drone".
Been in the business 25 years.

This is something i did publicly with Homeland Security : http://wjbk.membercenter.worldnow.co...type=printable
BRO!
good work....
and much respect
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There would not be a petition to write to the FAA if it was totally legal.

Here is a link that you can write to the FAA and plead your case to them.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1817293

As far as Statute, it is the wording of the FAA, and you have to read between the lines. My only suggestion would be call your local Detroit FAA office, and tell them you want to fly commercially.

Tell them your business is iTV in Detroit, and that you fly over construction sites and get paid for it.

If you want, I can send the FAA the iTV Detroit, Harry Arnold, itvdetroit@gmail.com, information to help assist and get you in the air.

As I stated earlier, I am here to help.
You are a fear monger. I am not afraid of you. I am in the air without your 'help'. (despite it really). that must be what you don't like about me.
You as a citizen can tell the FAA anything you want. I WORK WITH ALL AUTHORITIES HERE IN DETROIT.
We share a airport hanger with the tuskegee airmen for our indoor winter flying.
i corespond with: Homeland Security, Mayor Bing, Local Airport (FAA), regional (michigan) UAV-NAS integration board & testing site selection commitee.
I dont need to call anyone that I am not in touch with already.
Maybe you call yourself "telling on me"....but 'They' know already.

Please tell people when your opinions come from 'between the lines'. instead of representing them as facts.

my most recent work : http://www.suasnews.com/2013/01/2064...doritos-drone/

i shot edited and scripted this ad. I also did some of the flying and flew the AP chase quad for shots of the "actor drone".
Been in the business 25 years.

This is something i did publicly with Homeland Security : http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19...yes-in-the-sky

video channel (not a fail): http://www.detroitdrone.com
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