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Old Mar 11, 2009, 07:15 PM
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Hyperion Wolf Aircraft Samson II

NipponDave alerted us to this gem today in the Hyperion BF-109 Thread

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It's a bit OT maybe, but since the Bf109 is a scale model and so is the Wolf Aircraft Samson II, I thought I'd post a few of the final Samson pics for you.

The Samson is remarkable. Floats like a trainer, does clean F3A aerobatics (non-coupled knife edge with minimal rudder!), and is even an excellent 3Der..

About 8.5 lbs all-up, using ZS4025 motor and 4200~5000mAh 5S.

Arrving USA togther with Fw190 in about 2 months...

D
This looks fantastic!

Sorry I don't have more details like wings span, etc. as yet.

I also attached a couple of pics of the real thing.

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Old Mar 11, 2009, 07:16 PM
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Sorry, here are the real ones.
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Old Mar 11, 2009, 07:53 PM
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do we have any other specs at this point?
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Old Mar 11, 2009, 08:14 PM
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Sorry, just what he posted, but I will see if we can get more details.

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Old Mar 11, 2009, 10:45 PM
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Now that is a Fantastic Airplane !! for sure!! Let me know
when I could buy one.
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Old Mar 11, 2009, 10:53 PM
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Chris,
The plane looks fantastic. I remember reading a thread where Dave was mentioning this plane like 2 years ago. I'm glad to see it's finally coming to fruition. The cowl is a work of art! At that weight on 5S I'm not sure it's going to be a 3D demon or anything but it could be a very nice sport flyer and super scale at that.

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Old Mar 12, 2009, 09:44 AM
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Chris,
The plane looks fantastic. I remember reading a thread where Dave was mentioning this plane like 2 years ago. I'm glad to see it's finally coming to fruition. The cowl is a work of art! At that weight on 5S I'm not sure it's going to be a 3D demon or anything but it could be a very nice sport flyer and super scale at that.

Sean
Hey Sean, haven't heard from you in a while.

I don't think the main goal of this design is 3D anyway, but would have to agree with you. I bet we could come up with a power option that would improve its performance for 3D however!

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Old Mar 13, 2009, 07:47 AM
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do we have any other specs at this point?
HYPERION Samson II 70e
WINGSPAN =1463mm/ 57.6 in
WING AREA =76.8dm2/ 1190 sq.in
LENGTH =1339mm / 52.8 in

AUW (flying) 3.7~4.0Kg (8.2~8.8 lbs)
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Old Mar 13, 2009, 09:40 AM
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HYPERION Samson II 70e
WINGSPAN =1463mm/ 57.6 in
WING AREA =76.8dm2/ 1190 sq.in
LENGTH =1339mm / 52.8 in
Thank you David!
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HYPERION Samson II 70e
WINGSPAN =1463mm/ 57.6 in
WING AREA =76.8dm2/ 1190 sq.in
LENGTH =1339mm / 52.8 in

flying weight?
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Old Mar 13, 2009, 10:33 AM
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I don't think the main goal of this design is 3D anyway, but would have to agree with you. I bet we could come up with a power option that would improve its performance for 3D however!

Chris
Correct. 3D was not the main design criteria. However, it remains true that the Samson II is a rather strong 3D performer (look at the wing loading... 9.8oz/foot!!)

And, No, you will not find a motor package in the world that will outperform the new ZS4025. "Money Back "Guaranteed. On strong 5S lipo with corrrect prop, the model can go from "mild" to ballistic 3D...

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Old Mar 13, 2009, 10:38 AM
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flying weight?
From the first post 8.5 lbs.
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Correct. 3D was not the main design criteria. However, it remains true that the Samson II is a rather strong 3D performer (look at the wing loading... 9.8oz/foot!!)

And, No, you will not find a motor package in the world that will outperform the new ZS4025. "Money Back "Guaranteed. On strong 5S lipo with corrrect prop, the model can go from "mild" to ballistic 3D...

D
Thanks David. And I know some guys will still try!

OK, I actually did not catch the ZS, thats the new motors that are more powerfull right? I was comparing a Z4025, which I don't think would give quite the power that many want for 3D. Do you have the data yet on the ZS motors? Were those designed in conjunction with Scorpion? I think you said somthing like that in another post somewhere.

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Now that is a Fantastic Airplane !! for sure!! Let me know
when I could buy one.
Joe

Wolf Samson II should be arriving at distributors worldwide on about May 1st, so at shops around May 7~10 I would guess.

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Old Mar 13, 2009, 10:51 AM
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From the first post 8.5 lbs.
That was off the top of my head. Looked at a few setups and ours are running 8.2~8.8 lbs depending on 5S/6S and battery capacity. I think it may be possible to get it down to under 8 lbs with a careful build and 3300~3700mAh lipo.
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