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Old Jan 10, 2013, 01:32 PM
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My First Crash, All My Fault :(

I was so eager to fly my T-28 today that I ignored my better judgement against flying in the wind. There were moments of 100% calm, then sporadic gusts up to 15mph. I waited for a calm and it lasted several minutes so I decided to takeoff. Of course, as soon as I got in the air, the wind picked up, and it was a life or death attempt to land safely for several minutes. I never made it I came in low and slow into the wind and at about 10' of elevation with a slight breeze east to west, I caught a little gust from the north which cause my left wing to dip, I lost elevation immediately and nosed in pretty hard.

Here's my question... Fix it, or replace the entire fuse? The problem is, I got this plane from the guy who taught me to fly, and this was his first plane. Part of me feels like replacing the fuse would be doing him wrong.

Anybody have a source for a GREY fuselage? And if I go the "fix it" route, would it be wise, considering the access I now have, to insert some CF rods lengthwise into the fuselage up to the nose to strengthen it?
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 01:48 PM
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I like the plane but yeah, ouch. I thought I was going to do that to my first maiden last night....

Looks like a new fuselage is in order, repairing doesnt look like feasable. But maybe Im wrong. I wouldnt think the guy would care if you replaced it.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 01:50 PM
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to me that looks fixable. carlos had a similar looking crash on the trojan thread. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=867259
i strongly recommend you ask on that thread.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 01:58 PM
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I'd glue it back together with Welders glue or gorilla.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 02:52 PM
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I'd repair that with some 5 minute epoxy or foam tac or gorilla glue at the field and keep flying
it sure looks like a reasonably clean break... assuming it is, I'd just glue it back together and keep on truckin'
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 03:04 PM
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Air speed is your friend in the wind.
For future gusty landings try coming in a little hotter.
Good luck with the repair!!
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 03:08 PM
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In addition to the fuse, I also broke the nose gear steering arm.

The problem with glueing it back together, Is I dont want it to look like a plane thats been glued back together, I think thats ugly. Doesnt the white GG dry clear?
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 03:13 PM
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It dries white and turns yellow with time
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 03:22 PM
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Air speed is your friend in the wind.
For future gusty landings try coming in a little hotter.
Good luck with the repair!!
Thanks for that! A lesson I'll never forget
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 03:23 PM
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If you spread epoxy around the "inside" edges of the break and maybe put just a very thin film near the outside, you should be able to make the repair plenty strong and virtually invisible. Press/clamp it together hard (might need strings and pencils for tensioning that area) and you'll wind up with a fairly seamless joint.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 04:12 PM
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Just get a new steering mechanism. It is available from most hobby shops. It does look completely fixable.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 04:43 PM
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Fix it, fly it, crash it again. Fly it till its not fixable anymore.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 05:29 PM
The wind caused that!!
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definitely fix it. for the steering arm just get a new one. as far as the fuse i would use some foam safe ca glue or 5 minute epoxy.

start looking now for a grey fuse to replace your with tho. it may take a little time to find one.

reason i would repair the one you have now is until you get better at flying this won't be your only crash!!!! it would really suck if you replaced the fuse and then crashed it again.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 05:39 PM
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Actually that looks like a pretty easy fix. Gap filling CA will work just fine on that. I have seen planes much worse after a crash and were flying agin the following weekend. That is the beauty of foam.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 05:59 PM
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Yep, that's an easy fix, one that you could do in the field if you had the glue.
I'd probably use epoxy but everyone has their favourites when it comes to glue. Gorilla glue is ok but tends to expand out of the joint so looks ugly. With epoxy you should be able to make an almost invisible fix providing you take care not to splodge it everywhere.
If you have a little denatured alcohol / methylated spirits handy you can easily wipe off any epoxy that squeezes out of the joint before it sets.
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