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Old Nov 05, 2012, 10:55 PM
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update

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Old Nov 08, 2012, 05:03 PM
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We have a few boats being started. If anyone building could shoot me a message, I'd love to keep you guys updated without flooding the mesage boards.

Keel and bulb drawings coming soon. We'll have various bulb shapes to play with available for download.
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Old Nov 08, 2012, 05:20 PM
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I'd love to keep you guys updated without flooding the mesage boards.
Flood away! looking forward to seeing some of these boats!
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 06:24 AM
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Chris,
I haven't gone throughout the rules to much but what materials are you allowing for the boats to be built from?
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 07:43 AM
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class rules follow up

Rules are being edited and rewritten still. Boats can be built from anything commercially available. Carbon, glass, kevlar, balsa, ply, honeycomb, foam, etc...

The original TP rules are 40 pages long. I plan to have it narrowed down to a few pages over the weekend. The hardest part is testing the rule for scaling. Which isn't too difficult, but for instance, if you scale the bulb rule down, do you get a bulb that can support the scale sail plan, etc... the good answer to that and most questions is yes.

Real TP52's have a 1% deck camber. For practicality sake, things like that have been removed. 1% on a model is 1/10 of an inch. You won't even notice it. So we are looking at things like that as well.

We've got about six different TP52 designs. All pretty similar, that we'll be posting over time. The biggest thing is that the boats need to resemble a real TP52. This means cockpits, any above deck hardware should resemble real hardware... unlike let's say the J class, where the boats can be finished off to not resemble original J boats...

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Old Nov 09, 2012, 09:29 AM
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Chris,

I am not knocking what you are trying to do but where do you want he class to go? Bloody expensive like all the international classes? My opinion would be like IOM To a degree non carbon hulls but allow C/F rigs.
This would allow vacuum formed hulls and home builders without going to carbon. C/F tubes for masts are very cheap nowadays so this would help.
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 02:58 PM
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Carbon

Mike,

Why can't a home builder do carbon ? Bought by an individual carbon can be had for this boat for about $140. Maybe less. I bought a roll of it which is far cheaper.

Now, the question, where do I want it to go? Wherever it goes... I'll be offering up hulls for pretty little money, so if you want to get a hull for $250 or so, exact cost to be determined based on total bill of materials, it's going to be feasible.

The big misconception, is that carbon is better than glass. That may or may not be true. Carbon is more stiff per weight, however, 10oz carbon weighs the same as 10oz glass. Your boat might be more stiff however.

I recently built a 1.7m boat. All carbon with a glass outer shell. I think in a class where there is a limited keel weight, and an all up boat weight, there is no real advantage to carbon over glass. Not at this scale. We dont experience the loads that makes it beneficial. So going with either product, would be equally suitable. Mot people don't even build with carbon correctly, weave in wrong direction, or what not.... If you understand weave and modulus, you can make a pretty stiff glass boat at this scale easily.

The goal here is to have a scale racing boat. No an iom, or a one meter... Or anything along those lines... It should be a working model of the real thing, with obvious limits of scale and rc.
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 06:27 PM
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Do you have any photos of the other RC sailboats you've finsihed? I'd love to see one!
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 08:10 PM
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Sure Fokker I do. check out i550elroy.blogspot.com.

I've built numerous boats ranging in size from RC to Mt Gay 30.

I've been out of RC boats for a few years, and last year bought some CR914s. Now I've recently completed my hull for a 1.7M, which you should be able to see onthe 1.7M site, pics uploaded there. Or, if you are DYING to see one, I'll take one and post tomorrow. wait, maybe I have one on my phone here... hold on... I'll upload a pic of it to the tp52blog shortly.

Hey Fokker, do you have pictures of boats you've built ?
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 08:58 PM
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Are you trying to call me out? LOL. Sure, the only RC sailboat I've built is a Tippecanoe 37 kit finished in August.



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Old Nov 09, 2012, 10:58 PM
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Are you trying to call me out? LOL.
Nice job on the boat, Fokker Ace!

One of my semi-scale IOR boats (Half Tonner, 1977-ish ) in case you are wondering.
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 11:58 PM
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Aero, I LOVE that boat you built! Looks like it would sail great and fantastic lines. Where can we see more of that one?
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 01:26 PM
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boat pics

Very cool pics. nice.

I'm probably going to be kicking out a few hulls once we build a mold. I MIGHT have a few I'd be willing to let go for free, to a committed builder.

First come first serve. Preferably different areas of the country/world.
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Old Nov 17, 2012, 01:22 PM
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Any new developments?
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Old Nov 17, 2012, 05:36 PM
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TP52 looks like it would be a fun sail.
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