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Old Dec 01, 2003, 10:57 PM
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Mommy.. is there something wrong with me ?

Is it just me or does everyone here go through a gazillion covering scheme's before they settle on something they are happy with ? (TFLG you're excused from answering this cause you're too good)

I have only ever built 1 plane that i was happy with the original covering colour scheme that i did...

I should have shares in Solar-whatever-the-tekky stuff : (

Latest scheme for my "Scalpel" scratch build.. in keeping with the name, i changed it from wot looked like a whale snotted on it, to a clean and clinical colour scheme.. much better and saves people asking me "Hey mate... what is it?"

The "80" is for you US people who can only talk inches ; )

...so.... am i the only one who does this ???

ps.. for those that contributed to a previous thread about this plane wanting to nose dive, i ended up messing around with the CoG as well as aileron settings and she fly much better now, turns like it has been shot from a canon... awsome.. thanks all.

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Old Dec 01, 2003, 11:06 PM
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That looks cool! Very nice

Like you, I go through a lot of schemes - however, I haven't changed the schemes on a plane yet - I can't afford to!

I draw up a line version of the plane in my favourite graphics program, and do my scheme there first. Then I print it out and stick it on the garage wall while I build. If I find myself hating it, I change it! I'm about to start playing with my next scheme.... Although the plans for my F86 arrived today, and all I want to build is that!!!!!

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Old Dec 01, 2003, 11:24 PM
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hmmmm sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.... the F86 is this one right ??

That would make a damn fine sloper !!!



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Old Dec 01, 2003, 11:29 PM
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Yes - thats the one!

Although I'll do the Australian version (the CA-27).

And I don't have to decide on a scheme - thats it for sure!

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Old Dec 01, 2003, 11:42 PM
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Lately my schemes are all about maximum visibility in all conditions while trying to maintain some artistry.


White on top has greatest visibility against ground when glider is below eye level. I've landed the 48" Moth 900 feet below and a total of 2600 feet away as the crow flies, about 4 times now.
Black on bottom has greatest visibility at speck altitudes against blue sky or white clouds. I've specked out virtually every glider I have. The only one I've ever lost, was the one which had the least amount of black on the bottom of the wing (XP-3 DLG.. ouch)
Black trim on top is visible at high bank angles when the white fades against the hazy horizion or when flying over snow. Same with black trim on the tail surfaces.
Flourescent red trim on top, bottom and tail shows up best when the sun is very low, or completely down. It's the only thing that shows up at all when it's actually snowing.
The red is often also the only thing visible when the glider ends up down in the grass/bushes/trees somewhere.

As for the actual patterns, I usually sketch out the pattern in pencil, then like Mafu I put it into my favorite paint program and try a whole bunch of different variations, until I find something I like. To save some money on covering material, I then I'll hand draw it on card stock or construction paper, cut it out, flip it over to make a mirror image, and lay it out and tape it on on the wing to get an idea of what it'll look like. Trim, and then use those as a template to draw on and ultimately cut the covering material.
I use Monokote trim solvent to clean the wing and activate the glue, which helps prevent my thin curved patterns for getting all warped and askew if I had just tried to iron them down.

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Old Dec 01, 2003, 11:44 PM
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ooohhh very nice... and much better keeping it aussie : )
Does the kit include the missiles ?
Good for shooting down those pest zagi's
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Old Dec 01, 2003, 11:53 PM
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Daemon - thats some good colour scheme advice.... I'm just working out what my M60 will have! I like your scheme.... Might have to think of a variant....

Beefa - no kit - just the plan! I'll have to build this one from scratch :-) Lots of fun - but 4th - no 5th in the que - have to finish the Plouf, the ridgerunner, the 60"raider and the M60 first!

I was looking for a project for next winter - and found the F86 - I really like jets, and its cool its one of the first swept wings. I still wasn't sure, but then found Australia used and made them under license, and that was it - my first PSS decided on :-)

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Old Dec 02, 2003, 02:55 AM
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Beefa, that scheme looks a million dollars on the other one, no offense intended but it did look like itd come through a paint ball attack or similar.

Mafu, thatll be one sweeet PSS, like you, I love the fact that Aussies flew them, a big decider for me IF I was going to build a true PSS plane.
As far as colour schemes go, as long as its easy Ill do it. Id love to paint the tips of my First Plus, but Im not convinced of my spray can use skills to do what I want, neatly and professional looking. (yet) And as far as using a graphics program to trial schemes, well Im usless at them, so I gotta just imagine it then do it.

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Old Dec 02, 2003, 03:52 AM
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lol thanks mate, no offense taken... it was actually supposed to look like you said, so i suppose thats a plus..

As for painting the tips... just tape newspaper over the rest of the wing, make sure you line the tape up where you want the edge (top and bottom) and spray away, not too close.. nice even strokes... try it a test on something that wont mind... scrap balsa, ironing board, neighbours dog ; )


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Old Dec 02, 2003, 04:17 AM
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Mafu

If you don't feel like scratch building, check out this F-86 from MMGlider Tech. My buddy had one that was pretty old and beat-up by the time I flew it. But it was a great flyer, fantastic in good lift. They even have the opponent the MIG 15.
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Old Dec 02, 2003, 05:45 AM
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Jono,

Yeah - I saw that one - but I'm specifically after a scratch build project :-) Theres something cool about building stuff.

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Old Dec 02, 2003, 06:54 AM
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As long as you don't neglect your family Mafu

Hey beefa, that plane is looking better and better each time I see it.

"whale snot" LOL. It wasn't that bad!!

Cheers
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Old Dec 02, 2003, 07:16 AM
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Sounds like a good challenge. You're way braver than I. Let us know how you get on.
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Old Dec 02, 2003, 03:09 PM
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That MMGlidertech F-86 looks kinda nice. !!
I like the F-80 with the "droppable" wing tanks... that just gets the mind going.. : )
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Old Dec 02, 2003, 04:04 PM
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Here's another kit from Magnum Models: http://www.magnum-models.com/index.html that looks pretty good.
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