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Old Jun 15, 2001, 09:06 AM
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WHAT is an Endo ?

OK I have worked out that a MM is a Kyosho 360ST . Now what is an endoplasma motor?
Can you give me some info to lessen the mystery. Where do they dream up these names?
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Old Jun 15, 2001, 09:38 AM
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They're car motors. Do you need more to tell why they have names like that ?

Endoplasma is a 16 turn modified, see http://www.kyosho.com/accys/kyog2700.html for the rest (e.g. "Terminal Velocity", "Atom Smasher" ). Strangely enough I can't find one called the "Cheap Old Can" motor.

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Old Jun 15, 2001, 09:40 AM
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...something motocross racers fear!

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Old Jun 15, 2001, 11:18 AM
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...something motocross racers fear!

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AWaauugghhh!It took me a minute, but I finally go it!
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Old Jun 15, 2001, 11:22 AM
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Strange but that is one area in which Graupner is sadly lacking behind...the canned e-flight motors.

The R/C car industry and the Kyosho Mad Science motor series are vastly superior quality and performance for a similar cost.
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Old Jun 15, 2001, 12:18 PM
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Ok, I've looked on the Kyosho site on the Mad Science page and can't find any specs like weight etc. Are they equivalent to a common number like Speed 400? Weights, torque etc?

They sound very interesting. I'm sure those car guys really know how to wring them out, but I hit the "reviews" button and they weren't there either.

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Old Jun 15, 2001, 12:34 PM
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they're equivalent (in size) to a 540 car motor. I've ran several, and my pick of the litter is the endoplasma. I've ranthe endo on 6 8 and 10 cells. I have one in my "new" 3D electric plane, on 10 cells, 400 watts at peak (yes it will handle a lot of current, but I fly it with the throttle way back most of the time). It's highly efficient for a "cheap" car motor. the 3D plane I speak of is fairly large, at 64 inches, 1120 square inches of wing, and the endo will hover it,..at 4 lbs. pictures are at http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/garyw3

a very good $25 300 to 400 watt powerplant on 10 cells.

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Ok, I've looked on the Kyosho site on the Mad Science page and can't find any specs like weight etc. Are they equivalent to a common number like Speed 400? Weights, torque etc?

They sound very interesting. I'm sure those car guys really know how to wring them out, but I hit the "reviews" button and they weren't there either.

TIA
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I thought it was the art of Japanese fencing.

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Old Jun 15, 2001, 03:52 PM
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GWRIGHT said,
"400 watts at peak"

Holy mackerel Gary, you could hurt yourself with that!

BTW, That's a beautiful plane.

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Old Jun 16, 2001, 12:14 AM
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Thank you Steve ,thank you all. The link has solved the mystery. They are a 16 turn buggy motor.
Yes,the reason for the names is very obvious.
400 watts!! wow
The pricing of various items is relative to where you are. To give you an example the MM had risen here in the late eighties to around $40 before supply dried up. Brushes were the same price as a mabuchi 540. For those of you in the states read $60 twelve years ago for the MM.
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Old Jun 16, 2001, 01:23 AM
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Can someone please clarify which Kyosho buggy motor is most preferable?? I have the MM and MM Reversed, but are any others better, stronger, etc.? I use them in planes and boats, but am always looking for something faster (for these kinda' prices.) Thanks for any inputs ... Jim
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Old Jun 17, 2001, 05:12 AM
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Jim, It depends on your usage. There is no BEST motor. Some are better choices for certain applications. For a start the MM is designed to run a direct drive propellor or to use with a reduction gear that does not reverse the output direct e.g. a belt drive. The MM reverse is designed to run in the opposite direction and therefore is more suited to the regular pinion and spur gearbox where the output shaft (the bit the propellor is attached to) rotates opposite to the motor shaft. These two motors in general terms are more suited to higher cell counts than the ENDO for instance which is a smaller motor with less turns of wire around each of the armature 'poles' and therefore would spin much faster and use much more current with the same battery and propellor.
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